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re: Securing Schools - How I would start with most schools.

Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8602 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:32 pm to
Should be the #1 thing, minus the underline

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All exterior doors are metal and always locked from the outside. No glass where someone could shoot through and open. Visitors have to be buzzed in.


I know it’s not as easy in a larger school, but you should have the ability to buzz in/out any visitors, and I don’t think it would take any more man power or staff.

Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4234 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 am to
On a normal school day without a shooter, how do the kids get down the hall to use the bathroom and then get back into the classroom?
Posted by slowmoe
Member since Mar 2022
600 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:40 am to
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
1571 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:09 am to
7. Take the kids that are "on the spectrum" or showing red flags, remove them from the school, put them in a separate insane asylum. No need to do 1-6.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4790 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:15 am to
My kids went to a large 6A school in the Jxn, MS burbs. Even though the school is new, there is virtually no security what so ever. People (parents) and in and out all day.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67546 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:16 am to
How about an armed guy at all the entrances
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:21 am to
Put chains on all the doors and send the kids home to their parents. No more school shootings.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31665 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:31 am to
Randomly armed teachers and this is over. No more soft targets.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27326 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Bash away,


Will do

Good Lord you can secure the vast majority of elementary and middle rather easily w/out turning into prisons.

All students and personnel badged and ONE access point
for entrance (stagger hours if necessary) and all bags
/backpacks checked.Emergency exits that can only be opened from inside.

quote:

LEO would have camera access too via internet to locate threat. PA system to alert whole shool of suspicious activity/threat and location. Has visitors or anyone arriving at odd time show bag, etc. contents, sign in, etc. Bathroom inside. (This is the way my


Most schools with modern camera systems
have static address that can be accessed by local LE and a PA system should only be a backup system.All teachers and supervisors equiped with a modern-digital two-radio system.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

1. Fence around the whole school. Will it stop someone? No, slow them down? Yes.

2. Bullet proof guard shack on the fence line, cameras so he can see the fence line of the whole perimeter and hallways, LEO would have camera access too via internet to locate threat. PA system to alert whole shool of suspicious activity/threat and location. Has visitors or anyone arriving at odd time show bag, etc. contents, sign in, etc. Bathroom inside. (This is the way my work is)

Will it stop someone from coming in when kids arrive and are filing in? No, but it'll help stop/slow down someone showing up at odd times.

3. Metal doors on all classrooms that are locked during class.

Will it stop someone from being shot in the hall? No, but it will help protect the rooms themselves.

4. Metal doors in hallways that teachers can close and lock. Section off areas like a ship with bulkhead doors to contain a leak.

This way if a threat is approaching a zone teachers can move kids to a safe zone and seal of the threat zone if needed.


5. All exterior doors are metal and always locked from the outside. No glass where someone could shoot through and open. Visitors have to be buzzed in.

6. Practice emergency procedures and have plans in place for what to do and how to communicate.


The hardest thing would be screening when kids are arriving and protecting them when they are leaving in mass. That would be tough.


Not saying this would stop every instance and killing, but I think its some things that could be done for a reasonable budget that would for sure help and most people would agree to.


Or. Or arm the personnel.

Not one mention of arming anyone in your 6 steps.

All you've done is give a mass shooter a ninja warrior obstacle course.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:51 am to
mantraps at each entrance during off school hours. Around 8:30am to 2:30pm for example.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79680 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:04 am to
I like how people are bashing you for bringing in ideas (regardless if they are prison like) yet they are providing no solution.

ETA: It's similar to the echo chamber of " 'Something' must be done!" Well sure, that's an easy way of saying you have no solution.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:26 pm to
What in the frick is this??

Is this satire?
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51878 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:14 pm to
If you can have off-duty cops working bank branches, sky marshalls on planes, you can increase SROs who conceal carry and have a squad car out front. Hell, my kid's middle school has a reserved parking spot right out front. There should be more than 1 per school.

And for fricks sake, lock the damn doors.
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