re: Why are "they" so obsessed with mentions of 'FLAT EARTH'? Just a silly "CT", right?

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I rarely agree with those guys, but I'm generally with them on this one. (ETA: For the record, they're not slamming Flat Earthers, they're slamming climate change skeptics, of which I am.)

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They are...SLAMMING BOTH (listen, look closer -- as well as their histories on the subject).

ANY position these guys take, the safe bet is that they are LYING; ergo, the OPPOSITE is Truth.

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I have to assume you're trolling now.

I'm in the AGW/CC is a big scam camp, too. So, I understand a default position of skepticism.

I'm just not there with the Flat Earth folks.

Do you believe there are things in Low Earth orbit? Or is that all a scam, too? Just curious.

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FWIW, I have thousand of hours of research in this subject. I don't just toss BS out there. (MY position on FE was YOUR position just 4 years ago.)

It's ok that we disagree, AM. CLARIFICATION: The "True Believers" crack was meant for the 100% obstinate who refuse to think outside the NASA paradigm no matter what evidence otherwise is presented that discredits it.

Regarding LEO....

YES, there are objects in the atmosphere (NASA Balloons aka "Satellites".) There is no such reality as "orbiting" (unless it's in a East to West / West to East direction as certainly NOT "hundreds of miles up -- nevermind "thousands". I don' expect you to believe me but there are many here at this forum who do know the truth on this.)

The term LEO was invented as cover for the admission that "Space Ships" can only navigate so far (shockingly low altitude.) LEO definition goalposts (like everything else) keeps on moving.

Here's my big question -- and maybe you'll go there...

Why do peeps who are normally skeptical of govt and their agenda still believing in the integrity of NASA? As a default position they always get angry and go into offensive/defense mode of NASA ( even though they are proven liars.) NASA is worth investigating.

The org is also heavily into the Climate Change Agenda/Scam. They are also co-mingled heavily into Antarctica politics/dynamics. NASA is involved in helping enforce the 1958 Treaty and military restriction on any exploration (while conducting Balloon/ "Satellite" launches from there.)

Given NASA is the same GOVT who lies 24/7, why buy what they are selling at all?