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re: Is abortion murder?

Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:24 pm to
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The evolutionary process has selected for certain sexual and social behaviors that make higher order social mammals more likely to succeed and pass on their genetic information. And at the very top of that list is “don’t kill your own offspring for funzies”.


But killing offspring that aren’t my own would be pretty advantageous.

In any event you’re talking about urges. We recognize those and can override them. Logically why would I care about having offspring? I should only care about the 80 or 90 years I might have here and maximizing my personal enjoyment.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:28 pm to
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But killing offspring that aren’t my own would be pretty advantageous.


Only in a society where that behavior doesn’t hurt your ability to reproduce. That’s not the case in literally every human society that has ever existed. Killing an out groups offspring sure, but killing the offspring of those in your “group” (which now really encompasses all humans) sure won’t.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:30 pm to
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Logically why would I care about having offspring? I should only care about the 80 or 90 years I might have here and maximizing my personal enjoyment.


But most of your life isn’t dictated by logic, it’s dictated by biology. Choice is largely an illusion created by our narrow scope of existence.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
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But killing offspring that aren’t my own would be pretty advantageous.


Not if one of those offsprings lives to create a cure to a disease you're going to have. Or produces a crop you can trade for that prevents you from starving. Or, invents the wheel which makes your life easier. Or fights off a predator you couldn't outrun because of a simple ankle sprain you obtained because you weren't intelligent enough to recognize the advantages of living in a community that sought after the happiness and prosperity for its members.
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