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re: For those wanting to live in a post-Christian America, how are you enjoying it
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:18 am to Azkiger
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:18 am to Azkiger
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OG Hebrews following God's commandments.
Yes, but exactly which ones? There is such a thing as context back then.
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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
AND...those people are...ALL Christians?? Some Christians?
Again, clarity and specificity needed. Making broad-sweeping accusations without context is like hitting the side of a barn from point-blank range and claiming, "NAILED IT!"
EVERY man is a hypocrite AND "sinner" -- if that's your point (a point Christians already acknowledge).
It doesn't mean the Law should be ignored when violated -- along with obvious law-breakers, does it?
Some people (along with "Christians") are nicking-up the Glass House while others are tossing boulders through them.
How's this for a Bottom Line?
If the question then becomes, "who can lead the *most* by example and as mentor of all laws?" Isn't the man who most abides in a (Biblical) standard of morality as the basis for good law and polite society in America help maintain a superior civilization?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:58 am to Liberator
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Yes, but exactly which ones? There is such a thing as context back then.
Is there a context where killing women and children prisoners of war is acceptable?
Where do you think Hebrews got the idea that non-virgins should be stoned on their wedding night or that old men picking up sticks on the Sabbath should be stoned as well.
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AND...those people are...ALL Christians?? Some Christians?
Again, clarity and specificity needed. Making broad-sweeping accusations without context is like hitting the side of a barn from point-blank range and claiming, "NAILED IT!"
EVERY man is a hypocrite AND "sinner" -- if that's your point (a point Christians already acknowledge).
It doesn't mean the Law should be ignored when violated -- along with obvious law-breakers, does it?
Some people (along with "Christians") are nicking-up the Glass House while others are tossing boulders through them.
How's this for a Bottom Line?
If the question then becomes, "who can lead the *most* by example and as mentor of all laws?" Isn't the man who most abides in a (Biblical) standard of morality as the basis for good law and polite society in America help maintain a superior civilization?
Would you grant the same leniency to Rome and Romans? Maybe the ones you consider immoral really weren't true Ronans, or Chinese, or Greek, or Persian, or Egyptian.
You want to judge the Christian tree by the fruit yield its hypothetically (best case scenario) capable of producing, and wanting to judge all other trees by what they're actually producing. That's apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 11:06 am
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