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re: On this day 38 years ago, The Breakfast Club first met in detention
Posted on 3/27/22 at 12:33 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 3/27/22 at 12:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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ehh I can see it, only because we've all known that "type" in school. Towards the end of the movie Judd showed he was all talk and basiclaly played the character of a tough guy he wanted people to see, but deep down 1)he was a pussy as seen in bitching out 1v1 to the principal and 2)he was a softie by falling for a girl he just met earlier that morning.
HOWEVER...when most of the school (during the mid 80s) is either 1)a jock like emilio 2)a dork like AMH, 3)an upturned collar preppy frat boy 4) a "normal" person that is just regular and plain and doens't fit any stereotype....Judd's character that acts out and defies authority and acts tough probably IS one of the tough guys. At least that's the way I see it.
I guess my point is that this would likely have been he case with an ACTUAL tough guy as well, who when push comes to shove is acting the role. Judd Nelson looked and behaved more like some trendy wanna be the way I saw it. To compare him to another Hughes character, think Jimmy Montrose who was the bit character seen with Samantha in 16 Candles.
Nelson definitely fit an archetype, it's just that I thought he was softer than portrayed. Hughes tried to make him somewhat threatening, which never did it for me. When I started high school in 1984 the guys that were older and guys I was worried about were mostly wearing black band tour t-shirts and 501 jeans with longish hair. They didn't often tie bandanas around their ankles...
Then again, this may be regional and what is what passed as "tough guy" in John Hughes viewpoint in his fictional Shermer, Illinois. And thinking more about it, Kevin Smith must have had a similar thought as to the lack of tough guys in Shermer, though given Kevin Smith is a giant pussy himself he thinks Nelson was hard.
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:46 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I guess my point is that this would likely have been he case with an ACTUAL tough guy as well, who when push comes to shove is acting the role.
I think the version of being a tough guy that is portrayed in the movie is not the guy that could literally beat the crap out of anyone but that guy or guys that did not care regarding the consequences. I knew guys that were jocks or not the stereotypical tough guy that would always win a fight. But his character was of that guy in HS that could care less and what made them dangerous is they were unpredictable.
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