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re: Any of you ever dated a teacher before?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
TLDR: it’s not an either or situation. There’s a lot of gray and a lot of nuance.
For a long time teachers were the ultimate authority in the class room. I mean they had the support of both the school administration and the parents to educate and discipline students.
Over the past few decades there has been a shift to where now the administrations and parents now support the students as opposed to the teachers. It’s most evident in guidance departments now blatantly and openly asking teachers on the students behalf to change grades, allow late work, or offer bonus credit. You have administrations now not allowing students to fail, not allowing students to be expelled, and giving into the whims of parents that threaten to get on social
Media and air any and all dirty laundry.
The opening salvo of remote teaching during covid didn’t help either as most teachers were not prepped to teach or conduct class virtually as they had never done that before or been trained in doing so and then had to adjust curriculums overnight. That poor showing further emboldened some parents to proclaim teachers don’t do shite and don’t know shite and that homeschooling would be just as effective or better.
Rather than administrations supporting teachers and telling the parents to go ahead and try homeschooling, they groveled and submitted and essentially said you’re right, we will do something more to ensure your child is better educated and disciplined and it’s the teachers fault.
I’m not saying there aren’t bad teachers. I’m not saying there aren’t shitty schools. I’m not saying some teachers aren’t on an ideological bend to indoctrinate kids. I’m simply saying, the support dynamic between teachers, students, parents, and administrators has changed and not in a good way.
For a long time teachers were the ultimate authority in the class room. I mean they had the support of both the school administration and the parents to educate and discipline students.
Over the past few decades there has been a shift to where now the administrations and parents now support the students as opposed to the teachers. It’s most evident in guidance departments now blatantly and openly asking teachers on the students behalf to change grades, allow late work, or offer bonus credit. You have administrations now not allowing students to fail, not allowing students to be expelled, and giving into the whims of parents that threaten to get on social
Media and air any and all dirty laundry.
The opening salvo of remote teaching during covid didn’t help either as most teachers were not prepped to teach or conduct class virtually as they had never done that before or been trained in doing so and then had to adjust curriculums overnight. That poor showing further emboldened some parents to proclaim teachers don’t do shite and don’t know shite and that homeschooling would be just as effective or better.
Rather than administrations supporting teachers and telling the parents to go ahead and try homeschooling, they groveled and submitted and essentially said you’re right, we will do something more to ensure your child is better educated and disciplined and it’s the teachers fault.
I’m not saying there aren’t bad teachers. I’m not saying there aren’t shitty schools. I’m not saying some teachers aren’t on an ideological bend to indoctrinate kids. I’m simply saying, the support dynamic between teachers, students, parents, and administrators has changed and not in a good way.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:14 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Oilfieldbiology
Well said
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You have administrations now not allowing students to fail, not allowing students to be expelled,
Both of those things are great ways to lower your school letter grade. Administrators are judged on that - both by their superiors and as a matter of pride.
Principals know if they kick out so many kids, or so many kids fail, it's going to lower their school grade. They aren't stupid.
I'm not saying there is out and out cheating or funny business. But teachers and administrators have discretion (as they should). So that F that is barely an F, here's some extra credit. Oh look, we graded this essay a little too harshly, let's adjust. Well, we could suspend you, but why don't we just try another detention, since we know you are sorry for what you did.
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and giving into the whims of parents that threaten to get on social Media and air any and all dirty laundry.
If the teachers and principals stand firm, the Karen parents go to the school board. And since the school board is elected, they will push hard on the superintendent and/or the principals to "fix" the issue.
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