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re: LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.

Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by BigJim
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
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The only way that will truly work is a value added metric.


I am all for that.

However, I think that system falls apart outside of elementary school.

And even at elementary schools you have specialist teachers (PE, art, music, etc) who would need a different system.

And on a political level there would be a lot of upset teachers who discover they are not as good they thought they were because they had good (often middle-class) students.

That said, we shouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:35 pm to
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And even at elementary schools you have specialist teachers (PE, art, music, etc) who would need a different system.


Did you ever have a bad PE teacher? Or a good PE teacher?

All I had were coaches who just let us do whatever.

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However, I think that system falls apart outside of elementary school


I think it would work pretty well with your building block subjects like matn and ELA.

Science and social studies, where the subject material changes from year to year, it would be harder, sure. But the cohorts would be larger, because you are teaching more kids a day. You could still use data to say, these 110 kids averaged a score of X on US History, kids who got a similar score on US History averaged a Y score in Civics.

Having a larger cohort would reduce the impact from some kids just deciding to screw around or something.

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And on a political level there would be a lot of upset teachers who discover they are not as good they thought they were because they had good (often middle-class) students.


I've often said that a teacher who can bring a D inner city student to a C inner city student is a better teacher than one that can bring a B middle class student to an A middle class student.

I think such a system WOULD tell us who the best teachers are, and they aren't going to be the ones we think they are.

That's ok.
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