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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:03 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:03 pm to StormyMcMan
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Wait do you seriously think Ukraine has 500k KIA (meaning roughly 1M+ WIA) but Russia has only 50k KIA and can barely get the front line to move?
The Russians realized in the late summer of 22 that fighting a war of attrition was their best option, victory wouldn’t be achieved by maneuver but by the physical destruction of the Ukrainian Army, and in way that resembled the Western Front in WW1.
Territorial gains would come when the Ukrainian Army broke down, and was no longer able to defend the length of the front. It didn’t matter if the lined moved, or it didn’t, what mattered was Russias ability to inflict casualties at a favorable rate, which they could do, because of their advantage in artillery and increasingly air power.
The price for the Russian here was time, victory wouldn’t come quickly, but one of the virtues of this strategy, was that it was thrifty, and they wouldn’t suffer large losses.
*the BBC Mediazona estimate is between 55k and 80k Russian deaths, last I looked.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 7:05 pm
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The price for the Russian here was time, victory wouldn’t come quickly, but one of the virtues of this strategy, was that it was thrifty, and they wouldn’t suffer large losses.
*the BBC Mediazona estimate is between 55k and 80k Russian deaths, last I looked.
Correct, but you are stating a 10-1 KIA ratio with a front line that's moved 10s of kms not 100s of kms. If Ukraine was losing 10-1 KIA this war would would be over and Russia a lot bigger.
500k KIA implies a total casualty rate of around 2M to 2.5M or the entire Ukrainian Armed force or almost triple their current active force. That's why what your saying makes literally no sense. That kind of lose ratio and total casualty number, the lines would have collapsed months ago
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:32 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Russians realized in the late summer of 22 that fighting a war of attrition was their best option, victory wouldn’t be achieved by maneuver but by the physical destruction of the Ukrainian Army, and in way that resembled the Western Front in WW1.
Come on man, that’s ridiculous. One side doesn’t have 500K killed and the other 50K killed and it’s because of a war of attrition WWI style.
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