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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:44 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:44 am to
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Russia wouldn't accept just those terms though


How do you know? We aren't negotiating with them. Certain Western governments undermined peace talks earlier in this conflict because they thought continuing the war could get better results. The West does not even suggest openness to settlement talks now outside of total Russian withdrawal. You don't know what agreements can be arranged if you dismiss talks out of hand. Then when you come back later due to a worsening situation on the ground, the other side is likely to give you less, just like you attempted to do when you had more leverage.

Either way, the lack of settlement talks guarantees continuation until a decisive military outcome is achieved and that can mean a lot more devastating war and unforeseen escalation and chaos. I'm not seeing how that looks beneficial at the moment unless you want direct NATO entry into the fighting, which is counterintuitive to the whole purpose of supporting Ukraine's continued resistance in the first place.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
860 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Either way, the lack of settlement talks guarantees continuation until a decisive military outcome is achieved and that can mean a lot more devastating war and unforeseen escalation and chaos. I'm not seeing how that looks beneficial at the moment unless you want direct NATO entry into the fighting, which is counterintuitive to the whole purpose of supporting Ukraine's continued resistance in the first place.


This war will go on until Russia runs out of bodies to throw into it or it causes their political order to unravel and the people revolt... this is Russia's Afghanistan Intervention all over again...

It will probably go on until 2037... if Russia should prevail sooner than that, then they invade Moldova... then Lithuania, and that's when shite really gets dicey.

This is just a battle in a War, and it will not be settled nice and tidy so people can go back to not worrying about it. It's going to be a long haul, one way or another.
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