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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:18 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:18 am to
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You could say many of the same things about Poland and Russia.

Poland's main trade partner is Germany (Imp 21%, Exp 29%). Russia is comparatively diminutive at 6%/3%.

Poland does not have the same geographic importance in defense of Russia that Ukraine does. The name Ukraine translates to borderlands.

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Sovereign nations have the right to decide what’s best for themselves.
Not really. E.g., That is the premise Russia used for invasion
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36530 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:13 am to
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You could say many of the same things about Poland and Russia.
Poland's main trade partner is Germany (Imp 21%, Exp 29%). Russia is comparatively diminutive at 6%/3%.


I said many of the same things, not exactly the same things. Russia had conquered parts of Poland off and on for centuries.

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Sovereign nations have the right to decide what’s best for themselves.

Not really. E.g., That is the premise Russia used for invasion


Then there’s nothing really to discuss. You believe might makes right.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:04 pm to
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Sovereign nations have the right to decide what’s best for themselves.Not really. E.g., That is the premise Russia used for invasion


Amazing. What you want is complete capitulation because of the threat of that Russia poses with nuclear weapons. Therefore you are elevating their sovereignty over the sovereignty of others. And then criticize when countries seek out an alliance with countries who have nuclear weapons. It’s a nonsensical position.

In geopolitics, states will employ any and all means to preserve their own security. Suggesting that Russian security is above the security of its neighbors means that the US and the West was absolutely correct to enlarge NATO as well as to sideline Russia. You don’t seem to comprehend the consequences of your conditional and how they support NATO’s actions.
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