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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:26 pm to
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No one in Congress has been a bigger supporter of Ukraine than Sen. McConnell, and he's very much on board with the House GOP strategy now. Why? It's because the Biden Administration has completely bungled the war, doling out equipment slowly and long after it would have been most effective. Every expert agrees that, had Ukraine gotten HIMARS, ATACMS, Bradleys, cluster munitions, Abrams, etc. earlier in the war, Ukraine would have crushed Russia in the south and also retaken much of the Donbas. But the Biden Administration didn't want this to happen. Biden has continually talked about helping "as long as it takes," but he won't say what "it" is. Ukrainian victory? Why won't Biden say that?


Ever since the Polish Mig debacle last year, I’ve been saying that the Biden administration is doing just enough to make sure that Ukraine doesn’t lose and their strategy is to just let the Ukrainians and Russians kill each other. I’m glad the GOP is coming around to my positions even if it’s 18 months too late.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18927 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Ever since the Polish Mig debacle last year, I’ve been saying that the Biden administration is doing just enough to make sure that Ukraine doesn’t lose and their strategy is to just let the Ukrainians and Russians kill each other. I’m glad the GOP is coming around to my positions even if it’s 18 months too late.



Early on in the war, I understood the concerns about possible escalation, and I said so here. I thought the risk was worth taking, but I thought the Biden Administration strategy was defensible.

But about a year ago, it became clear that there was zero risk of escalation, and I thought that's where the Biden Administration really fumbled the ball. If Ukraine had had cluster munitions and ATACMS at the beginning of their offensive, it would have been successful. Period. Not to mention the difference another hundred Bradleys would've made.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
6335 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:27 pm to
Fun fact about the Polish Mig bullshite at the start of the war, they actually learned that one from us. When a large part of society still was no war at any cost at the beginning of WW2, FDR wanted to help Britain but he knew the public would not take it well so he couldn’t be caught supplying them with munitions. The RAF needed aircraft so FDR bought a guy’s farm and put a runway in the grass to bring the fighters to the Canadian border and then the RCAF came across the border and pulled the aircraft across the border. Basically exactly what Poland did except they went a step further and dismantled their wings to get them in the forest.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:57 pm
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