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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:54 pm to
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But didn't you say that Russia's performance in Ukraine directly affected how China would approach Taiwan in the future? By that metric, isn't the cost worth it, if Taiwan is so important to you?


I still want Ukraine to win even if I don’t think it’s going to happen, but yeah they’ve stopped that. I’m for all practical means to help them out, but not to the point of risking WWIII. The Ukrainians have fought valiantly and should be commended. We’re still not the world police though.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:04 pm to
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I still want Ukraine to win even if I don’t think it’s going to happen, but yeah they’ve stopped that.


The logical position you've put yourself in is curious.
So in that respect, supporting Ukraine directly has been completely worth it if it leads to China completely rethinking their approach to Taiwan, correct?

Here's what you've said. You said that spending money on Ukraine isn't worth it because the Russians are going to win. At the same time, the performance of the Ukrainians and the support they've gotten from the developed world has made China rethink its approach to Taiwan. Taiwan is far more important to you than Ukraine, but you've made a direct connection between Ukraine and Taiwan.

In other words, Taiwan represents a far more important geopolitical position than Ukraine. Your initial worry that Russia's invasion of Ukraine would embolden the Chinese to take Taiwan was assuaged as China saw the response from the developed world to the Russian invasion. At the same time, you insist that giving any money to the Ukrainians is a waste because they are likely to lose, despite the benefit you yourself admit with regards to China and Taiwan. In those terms, don't you think withdrawing aid will also have an effect on the China and Taiwan, if we are following the logic you've suggested?
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