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re: Anyone know the TAX of NIL
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:22 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:22 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
If no entity is set up, the 1099 income would be reported on a Schedule C of their individual income tax return, form 1040.
On an assumed NIL payment of $100,000 subject to a 10% agency/agent fee filing single with no dependents:
The resulting realized $90,000 in income would be reduced by $6,358 as the deductible portion of Self-Employment taxes and $12,500 in the standard deduction and $14,218 in QBI deduction.
Leaving $56,874 in taxable income. With federal income tax of $8,261 and self-employment tax of $12,716 for a total tax bill of $20,977 to uncle sam. Please note that state income and self-employment taxes are not included in these figures. Using a conservative 5% that is an approx. $4,250 state tax bill.
To recap
$100,000 NIL payment
(10,000) agent fee
(20,977) federal income and self employment taxes
(4,250) state income taxes
_______
$64,773 after tax income
ETA: May not qualify for the QBI deduction due to the nature of the "business" and federal income taxes would be due on the $14,218. Used a quick online calculator, not actual tax prep software for the above illustration.
On an assumed NIL payment of $100,000 subject to a 10% agency/agent fee filing single with no dependents:
The resulting realized $90,000 in income would be reduced by $6,358 as the deductible portion of Self-Employment taxes and $12,500 in the standard deduction and $14,218 in QBI deduction.
Leaving $56,874 in taxable income. With federal income tax of $8,261 and self-employment tax of $12,716 for a total tax bill of $20,977 to uncle sam. Please note that state income and self-employment taxes are not included in these figures. Using a conservative 5% that is an approx. $4,250 state tax bill.
To recap
$100,000 NIL payment
(10,000) agent fee
(20,977) federal income and self employment taxes
(4,250) state income taxes
_______
$64,773 after tax income
ETA: May not qualify for the QBI deduction due to the nature of the "business" and federal income taxes would be due on the $14,218. Used a quick online calculator, not actual tax prep software for the above illustration.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:19 am to Curtis Lowe
Best answer so far.
The only thing is that QBID will probably go away in 2022, so that 14k will most likely be taxable in years 2-4.
The only thing is that QBID will probably go away in 2022, so that 14k will most likely be taxable in years 2-4.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:06 am to Curtis Lowe
I don’t know shite, but it sounds like you know what you’re talking about so I’ll take your word for it. 35% in taxes.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:24 am to Curtis Lowe
Self employment taxes... Didn't think of that either. that's another 15%. This is going to be fun to watch. Soon, they will wish it was all under the table again. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:43 am to Curtis Lowe
Also, will some be required to make fed and potentially state quarterly payments? If so, missing them can lead to penalties that further erode the original amount paid.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:12 am to Curtis Lowe
quote:
To recap
$100,000 NIL payment
(10,000) agent fee
(20,977) federal income and self employment taxes
(4,250) state income taxes
_______
$64,773 after tax income
Who the frick downvotes math??
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:17 pm to Curtis Lowe
I’m sure these boosters will have access to great accountants. I’m assuming there are many things that can be written off?
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:59 pm to Curtis Lowe
Agent fee is minimum 20%. Probably closer to 30%.
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