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re: Anyone know the TAX of NIL

Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1327 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:22 pm to
If no entity is set up, the 1099 income would be reported on a Schedule C of their individual income tax return, form 1040.

On an assumed NIL payment of $100,000 subject to a 10% agency/agent fee filing single with no dependents:

The resulting realized $90,000 in income would be reduced by $6,358 as the deductible portion of Self-Employment taxes and $12,500 in the standard deduction and $14,218 in QBI deduction.

Leaving $56,874 in taxable income. With federal income tax of $8,261 and self-employment tax of $12,716 for a total tax bill of $20,977 to uncle sam. Please note that state income and self-employment taxes are not included in these figures. Using a conservative 5% that is an approx. $4,250 state tax bill.

To recap

$100,000 NIL payment
(10,000) agent fee
(20,977) federal income and self employment taxes
(4,250) state income taxes
_______
$64,773 after tax income

ETA: May not qualify for the QBI deduction due to the nature of the "business" and federal income taxes would be due on the $14,218. Used a quick online calculator, not actual tax prep software for the above illustration.

This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4629 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:19 am to
Best answer so far.

The only thing is that QBID will probably go away in 2022, so that 14k will most likely be taxable in years 2-4.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
2037 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:06 am to
I don’t know shite, but it sounds like you know what you’re talking about so I’ll take your word for it. 35% in taxes.
Posted by Scatback1
Denham
Member since Dec 2021
750 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:24 am to
Self employment taxes... Didn't think of that either. that's another 15%. This is going to be fun to watch. Soon, they will wish it was all under the table again. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted by Conch Shell
Somewhere in the sun
Member since Feb 2013
62 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:43 am to
Also, will some be required to make fed and potentially state quarterly payments? If so, missing them can lead to penalties that further erode the original amount paid.
Posted by blafayette
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
616 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:12 am to
quote:

To recap

$100,000 NIL payment
(10,000) agent fee
(20,977) federal income and self employment taxes
(4,250) state income taxes
_______
$64,773 after tax income




Who the frick downvotes math??



Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
747 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:17 pm to
I’m sure these boosters will have access to great accountants. I’m assuming there are many things that can be written off?
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:59 pm to
Agent fee is minimum 20%. Probably closer to 30%.
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