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re: WVU not turned down
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:37 am to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:37 am to Rohan2Reed
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Kentucky wipes the floor with you
Guess your forgetting that we went 1-1 against the all mighty Wildkittens the last two years.
As far as football goes, you have Mississipi State, Vandy, Kentucky, just off the top of my head that aren't close to WVU in football.
Per capita? Well there is no scientific way of proving who has more. He'll if we just go by per capita income, most of the SEC states and WV fall into the lowest 10. And believe me, louisiana's 42k isn't a whole lot more than WV's $37.5.
I only mentioned the hillbilly redneck thing because I have seen posts about it on here. I wasn't pointing a finger directly at you. Just amazing how some posters are just so generally misinformed and use stereotypical references to hide their ignorances. Again. Not directed at you.
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:42 am to Dilrod
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Guess your forgetting that we went 1-1 against the all mighty Wildkittens the last two years.
two years vs. the entirety of the programs histories. give me a break.
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As far as football goes, you have Mississipi State, Vandy, Kentucky, just off the top of my head that aren't close to WVU in football.
so what about Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Florida? hell, even Arkansas is a top 20 all-time program. Ole Miss is probably ranked higher than y'all as well.
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Per capita? Well there is no scientific way of proving who has more. He'll if we just go by per capita income, most of the SEC states and WV fall into the lowest 10. And believe me, louisiana's 42k isn't a whole lot more than WV's $37.5.
i'll say this. i've lived in the South for a long time, and i've also driven through WV and southern PA. i've never been more scared in my life than when I stopped at a gas station in the sticks in WV.
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I only mentioned the hillbilly redneck thing because I have seen posts about it on here. I wasn't pointing a finger directly at you. Just amazing how some posters are just so generally misinformed and use stereotypical references to hide their ignorances. Again. Not directed at you.
exactly. i didn't even bring that up.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:50 am to Rohan2Reed
WVU has the 14th most wins in NCAA history.
Alabama, auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU Are the SEC teams with more wins.
Just sayin.
Alabama, auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU Are the SEC teams with more wins.
Just sayin.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:50 am to jcole4lsu
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Wouldn't matter.. Television market and business models aren't covered in the course.
there ARE courses which cover aspects of this you know...
Obviously... I was referring to Econ 101.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 5:54 am to windhammontanatigers
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Welcome now to the Mountaineers
Posted on 9/20/11 at 6:16 am to JawjaTigah
Looking forward to WVU in the great SEC.
I did take ECON 101 about 15 years ago...does my opinion count?
I did take ECON 101 about 15 years ago...does my opinion count?
Posted on 9/20/11 at 6:36 am to lsu777
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lsu777
Uggg. I hate you. Go chill withdr drunk. WVA BABY
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:27 am to Dilrod
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We have a lot of alumni in the DC area, and hell half the South Carolina residents are from here or their family was.
WTH... going to Myrtle Beach doesn't make West Virginians a SC Resident.... South Carolina was a British Colony. We populated western states.
Yes, some native-born West Virginians have moved out of the state and done well for themselves... a la Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, Jim Grobe. How come nobody moves into the state?
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:31 am to winyahpercy
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WTH... going to Myrtle Beach doesn't make West Virginians a SC Resident.... South Carolina was a British Colony. We populated western states.
Yes, some native-born West Virginians have moved out of the state and done well for themselves... a la Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, Jim Grobe. How come nobody moves into the state?
Hell what major highways go through West Virginia, I've never heard of anyone talk about visiting the state or mentioning any cities from there. Now I hear good things about Virginia.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:50 am to Wolf Shirt
why you mad tho?
because my agreements have merit? Wvu isn't bad just not a good choice.
because my agreements have merit? Wvu isn't bad just not a good choice.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:03 am to bayou2003
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Hell what major highways go through West Virginia
I64, I77, i79, I68, and I81.
Just because you haven't heard about us, doesn't mean we don't exists. WV has a great tourism income from white water rafting, casino's, camping, hiking, etc. Educate yourselves before being negative or even hypocritical.
In fact Lewisburg WV was just recognized as the best small city to live in the US.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:11 am to lsu777
The WVU, A&M, and other fans have a good point in reference to being an "SEC fit". We consistently forget about some of the existing members not exactly being world beaters. Are those schools really that much better than WV, A&M, or FSU? Not really.
So, if all of the expansion movement is over money, it makes sense, as lsu777 has repeatedly pointed out, that we deal with it primarily on the financial aspect.
What do these teams contribute to the SEC monetarily? Broadcast markets, Tv sets, branding, etc. I'm sure that Slive and the SEC Presidents aren't going to add anyone that costs them money.
The one thing that lsu777 may be missing is that adding 1 or 2 new schools may allow the SEC to renegotiate its contract. So, WV may not have to bring in a net value of $40M+ in order for it to be a more lucrative deal for existing members.
So, if all of the expansion movement is over money, it makes sense, as lsu777 has repeatedly pointed out, that we deal with it primarily on the financial aspect.
What do these teams contribute to the SEC monetarily? Broadcast markets, Tv sets, branding, etc. I'm sure that Slive and the SEC Presidents aren't going to add anyone that costs them money.
The one thing that lsu777 may be missing is that adding 1 or 2 new schools may allow the SEC to renegotiate its contract. So, WV may not have to bring in a net value of $40M+ in order for it to be a more lucrative deal for existing members.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:14 am to Dilrod
quote:No offense to you, but I've never heard of Lewisburg. but I'll venture a guess that it isn't exactly St. Lucia.
In fact Lewisburg WV was just recognized as the best small city to live in the US.
I think the lack of some major metropolitan areas inside your state hurts your national recognition. It isn't that we dislike you. You're just so far away that we're... unfamiliar.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:19 am to Dilrod
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In fact Lewisburg WV was just recognized as the best small city to live in the US.
by whom? some terrible entity like Yahoo! News?
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:21 am to Dilrod
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In fact Lewisburg WV was just recognized as the best small city to live in the US.
thats awesome, but has less than zero to do with conference expansion
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:32 am to Mahootney
no I understand renegotiating and the amount of money it will bring in. But right now if we brought in 2 teams to go to 14 we will need to add 109 million per year just to match the big 10 and what their schools get.
that's not gonna be easy and that is not even counting any added cost incurred by moving. That's why a future full time sec network is so important. Its the only way expansion makes sense $$ wise. And the biggest driver to making big money with that kind of network is subscribers in states with sec members, this is why population density is so important.
that's not gonna be easy and that is not even counting any added cost incurred by moving. That's why a future full time sec network is so important. Its the only way expansion makes sense $$ wise. And the biggest driver to making big money with that kind of network is subscribers in states with sec members, this is why population density is so important.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:34 am to uscpuke
quote:Good. College football is really about more than only revenue-generation on paper. Mystiques generate far more revenue long-term than any appraisal of net worth or paper income projections can grasp or explain.
I did take ECON 101 about 15 years ago...does my opinion count?
The passion of a fan-base is based in large parts on that mystique and that translates into marketability. Ask yourself, back in the bad old days when LSU wasn't winning (Pre-Dinardo) or even playing particularly well, why did Tiger Stadium still sell out?
It was the LSU mystique.
Things like Billy Cannon's Halloween Night Run is one example of mystique - priceless.
Rivalries like Auburn/Alabama or UGA/Florida can't be laid out totally to only dollars and cents.
The mystique of the SEC domination, and our winning MNCs by the boxload, esp. in recent years, is a prime example of this principle in action. You can't buy this kind of image.
It's an intangible, granted. But in college football, that intangible quality/mystique is as real or more real than the numbers on somebody's bottom line.
WVU brings that same quality into the SEC with their own storied program, a mystique all their own.
It looks to me like that makes them a natural to add-to not take-away from the overall SEC legend.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:58 am to JawjaTigah
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when LSU wasn't winning (Pre-Dinardo) or even playing particularly well, why did Tiger Stadium still sell out?
Umm...
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:58 am to JawjaTigah
This stuff is all over Twitter:
McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Multiple Big East sources said they have been told by WVU officials that WVU rejected by ACC & SEC
McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Multiple Big East sources said they have been told by WVU officials that WVU rejected by ACC & SEC
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