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re: Will Texas A&M be a more natural rival to Arky or LSU?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:16 am to SohCahToa
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:16 am to SohCahToa
I'm just not there on the A&M being a huge success in the SEC. They are probably 5th best in the division (this statement isn't meant for the upcoming year) behind LSU, Bama, Barn, and Arkansas. If they have to play Texas every year as an OOC I just don't see them in contention for national championships anytime soon.
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:20 am to WoodlandsAg07
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there will definitely be an adjustment period.
There will be but it won't take very long.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:21 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I just don't see them in contention for national championships anytime soon.
We haven't been anytime recently, so this will be nothing new. I think most A&M fans would be perfectly happy with 7 or 8 wins our first couple years as long as we were showing the gains in recruiting that so many expect. Assuming we are playing Texas, beating them will also be big obviously.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:24 am to WoodlandsAg07
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We haven't been anytime recently, so this will be nothing new. I think most A&M fans would be perfectly happy with 7 or 8 wins our first couple years as long as we were showing the gains in recruiting that so many expect
I think thats a pretty realistic goal. I'm pretty sure the recruiting will pick up. I hope it doesn't affect LSU's recruiting in Texas as much as I think it will.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:27 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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They are probably 5th best in the division (this statement isn't meant for the upcoming year) behind LSU, Bama, Barn, and Arkansas. If they have to play Texas every year as an OOC I just don't see them in contention for national championships anytime soon.
It's just gonna make the west a lot tougher than it already is right now...for anyone. It's gonna take them some time but A&M will eventually be much better than they are right now and much more consistently.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:30 am to WoodlandsAg07
If A&M plays in a sec championship it will mean they would have probably played 7-8 legitimate programs during the regular seasons in Bama,LSU,Barn,assuming FSU from the east,Arkansas,Texas, an Uga/Fla/Tenn/South carolina, and the east champion.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:36 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Aside from the tradition in the SEC, that's what I love about it. You earn every single win in the conference, and there are no vanilla opponents in the West.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:37 am to Porky
I just don't believe their recruiting is going to pick up too much from moving to the SEC like A&M fans believe. I still think OU and Texas grab the main recruits from Texas.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:43 am to WoodlandsAg07
I'll give A&M this though I think Mike Sherman can coach circles around Mack Brown. I think if they beat Texas 2 or 3 more years in a row my comments on recruiting will be null and void. Lot of bandwagoners that would switch their allegiance to A&M from Texas and make A&M the flavor of the state of Texas.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 2:45 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:45 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I still think OU and Texas grab the main recruits from Texas.
There will be more parity between those three, IMO, but I can see A&M benefiting a lot...OU and Texas slipping somewhat. Recruits are going to like the idea of playing in the SEC. Unless the Big 12 does something really soon to save their conference, A&M could get an edge.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:54 am to KingwoodLsuFan
I like Sherman and he's an excellent offensive coach. I also think we have some great recruiters on staff. But Tim DeRuyter, our DC, has transformed our defense. If we have the year we're expected to have, he should be a Head Coach somewhere this time next year, which could really set us back.
I think OU stands to lose the most from realignment. If they head elsewhere, they could lose a major presence in Texas, which could really hurt their recruiting here. UTa and us will always recruit Texas because we will always play our home games here, but OU could really suffer. That's why I think they stay with the whorns as long as the whorns are in a conference.
I think OU stands to lose the most from realignment. If they head elsewhere, they could lose a major presence in Texas, which could really hurt their recruiting here. UTa and us will always recruit Texas because we will always play our home games here, but OU could really suffer. That's why I think they stay with the whorns as long as the whorns are in a conference.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:56 am to Porky
I'm going to agree to disagree on this with you to a point. I think the biggest impact will be on players not wanting to travel to far from home on a regular basis.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:58 am to WoodlandsAg07
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I think OU stands to lose the most from realignment.
Yea...I agree, OU could lose the most in that regard.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:05 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I'm going to agree to disagree on this with you to a point. I think the biggest impact will be on players not wanting to travel to far from home on a regular basis.
Good point. There's some truth to this as well, but there's still a lot of really fine talent in Texas that will see it as an opportunity.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:05 am to WoodlandsAg07
The hardest transition for A&M's defense will be getting depth on the defensive line to last the full season against a more rush oriented league. Right now in the big 12 it looks like their defense is built to rush the passer to stop all the spread offenses you guys have been facing.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:10 am to KingwoodLsuFan
This is very true, our defense is definitely built to rush the OU, OSU and Tech type teams that put it up 40-50 times a game. That will be a major adjustment, and if DeRuyter leaves before we enter the SEC we may see a change in philosophy. Are there a lot of 3-4 teams in the SEC? I thought I remembered LSU being one under Saban, don't know if Alabama is now or if LSU stayed that way, I'm more familiar with the offensive styles of SEC teams.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:15 am to WoodlandsAg07
I know Bama and UGA are now. Bama has been the only team that has been successful with it. UGA implemented it in last year and really didn't work to well but that's only one year of running it. LSU never had a 3-4 with Saban here.
For the most part the average defense is 4-3. More teams have more talent on the d line then with linebackers.
For the most part the average defense is 4-3. More teams have more talent on the d line then with linebackers.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:23 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:31 am to Porky
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Unless the Big 12 does something really soon to save their conference
Lots of talk about Notre Dame last week. Think that's a realistic possibility? How much would that affect everything?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:33 am to SohCahToa
no chance in hell for ND. If they don't want to join the big 10 there is no way they are joining the big 12. Notre Dame is going to the Big 10 when being independent doesn't work for them anymore.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:30 am to DesignatedT
Kingwood LSU, ummm... feel free to pack your shxt.
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