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re: TV just hit a speed bump
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:45 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:45 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:
do you guys think the pac 10 is talking to tech right now?
No freaking way. They would add nothing to the PAC10 but bringing their academics down. Tech is not in the heart of solid hs recruiting.
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:45 am to Baloo
They can just tell them sure you would get 20 million as well. I mean crap it is all make believe money anyways, no actual contract has been signed.
See watch how this works. I am projecting the big 12 to get paid 500 million annually for TV revenue. There now everyone can have a equal piece of the pie at 50 million a year.
See watch how this works. I am projecting the big 12 to get paid 500 million annually for TV revenue. There now everyone can have a equal piece of the pie at 50 million a year.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:46 am to hoginthesw
Question is would taking Tech force the hand of the other Big 12 teams as a nine team conference would not work. They would have to add a TCU and imagine this wouldn't be a good draw for the continuation of the Big 12 and might help prompt the Pac 16.
I don't believe this is what is happening, but not entirely impossible.
I don't believe this is what is happening, but not entirely impossible.
This post was edited on 6/15/10 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:52 am to Baloo
quote:where exactly will Texas Tech go?
Texas can't lose anyone from this POS conference right now.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:52 am to Tiger Authority
But... if the Pac-10 adds Tech, does this kill the Big XII and forces Texas to join? Quite a gamble, and not one I think the Pac-10 would actually do. But it is at least a (remote) possibility.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:53 am to Chicken
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where exactly will Texas Tech go?
do they have to have the immediate option of another conference to be able to cause a problem? I don't think so.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:54 am to Tiger Authority
I will say this. TT really should have called all the other schools that were getting ripped off by OU, UT and aTm and made sure they were all on the same page. They would have much more power as a collective.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:54 am to Chicken
WAC to take Boise St place? 
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:55 am to tuck
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I will say this. TT really should have called all the other schools that were getting ripped off by OU, UT and aTm and made sure they were all on the same page. They would have much more power as a collective.
There is no collective in the conference. Tech could only rely on joining forces with Ok St.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:56 am to WLHUNG
That's not saying much.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:57 am to tuck
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I will say this. TT really should have called all the other schools that were getting ripped off by OU, UT and aTm and made sure they were all on the same page. They would have much more power as a collective.
That wouldn't happen because Mizzou, Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa State are all scared about where they'll end up if the Big 12 collapses. They'd rather take half a loaf than nothing.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:58 am to Tiger Authority
quote:Am I not being clear? You have misinterpreted every post I've made. I never said there was a collective, I said they should get all the small shitty schools on the same page (as a collective group) and make OU, UT and aTm give them equal distribution. 7 shitty schools > 1 shitty school pulling off this change to make it equal in distribution.
There is no collective in the conference. Tech could only rely on joining forces with Ok St.
This post was edited on 6/15/10 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:58 am to COTiger
Nobody thought TAMU could force the other four teams to stay in the Big 12 and that is exactly what happened. A united Tech and OK St have significant bargaining power, but that would be assuming they're united, which they aren't.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:59 am to Tiger Authority
quote:If the other seven schools stood together and stated they wanted equal shares that would be a collective. UT and A&M would take a lot of flack in Texas media if they let the conference die out of greed for more money IMO.
There is no collective in the conference
I know it would be a big risk for the likes of Baylor, Kansas, etc because they have no back up plan. At least all this football talk is helping the summer pass quickly
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:00 am to teke184
Tech, Mizzou, KU, and K-State to the MWC? Makes it a BCS conference, maybe you get a TV deal, you get away from Texas...
... another extreme gamble that is barely feasible. Just throwing out ideas.
... another extreme gamble that is barely feasible. Just throwing out ideas.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:00 am to tuck
quote:
Am I not being clear? You have misinterpreted every post I've made. I never said there was a collective, I said they should get all the small shitty schools on the same page (as a collective group) and make OU, UT and aTm give them equal distribution. 7 shitty schools > 1 shitty school pulling of this change to make it equal in distribution.
I understand what you're saying and you're simply wrong. Seven teams don't have collective power because five of those teams have no other options. It's either Big 12 or nothing for them. But Ok St and Tech had another option at one point and it's not as if they are going to be left out of any future expansion.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:02 am to 225rumpshaker
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If the other seven schools stood together and stated they wanted equal shares that would be a collective. UT and A&M would take a lot of flack in Texas media if they let the conference die out of greed for more money IMO.
I know it would be a big risk for the likes of Baylor, Kansas, etc because they have no back up plan. At least all this football talk is helping the summer pass quickly
Everyone is assuming five of the schools in the Big 12 have any other option than to go along with Texas, TAMU, and OU. THEY DON'T. It's Big 12 or independent bust for those schools.
So those teams uniting would be stupid for them because it could theoretically drive Texas and the other four teams to the extinction of the conference, which they can't have.
Tech and Ok St aren't in the same boat.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:04 am to Tiger Authority
quote:The only way that would be true is if UT, aTm and OU really don't want to keep this conference together. If they want to keep the conference together, as they've payed lip service to, then they do as a group have some power. If they don't care about keeping it together (which is entirely possible), they you're correct. They'll just say frick off and UT and OU go to the PAC anyways and aTm to the SEC. Then the other teams that stood their ground for equal rights would have to either make their own conference or join a shitty one.
I understand what you're saying and you're simply wrong. Seven teams don't have collective power because five of those teams have no other options. It's either Big 12 or nothing for them. But Ok St and Tech had another option at one point and it's not as if they are going to be left out of any future expansion.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:06 am to Baloo
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Tech, Mizzou, KU, and K-State to the MWC? Makes it a BCS conference, maybe you get a TV deal, you get away from Texas...
If I got assurance that the new MWC would have an immediate BCS bid after its formation, I'd do it. frick it. They already have their own TV network, so they are ahead of the Big XII game in that regard.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:07 am to tuck
It's simply economics. If you're Iowa State's AD, what would you do? Would you cause a rift in the television deal, and possibly risk forcing the big name teams to another conference, which would cause you to not have a conference, not have the same type of revenue, and fail to be in a BCS situation? Or would you take whatever the hell you could get to stave off being a forgotten nobody in the middle of the country with no money and relegating yourself to joining some crappy conference that has no BCS ties?
They have no power. None. They have to be okay with the unequal share of the pot and giving it all to three schools.
But if you're Tech and Ok St, you aren't in the same boat and you can fight the power struggle.
They have no power. None. They have to be okay with the unequal share of the pot and giving it all to three schools.
But if you're Tech and Ok St, you aren't in the same boat and you can fight the power struggle.
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