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re: There is one big misconception about the Texas and A&M scenario
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:12 am to pitbull20
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:12 am to pitbull20
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As long as Texas and A&M are in the same conference, that will always be the last regular season game for Texas. Texas desperately needs out of this situation so we can finish the season against a solid opponent to have a chance in the BCS rankings
A solid opponent like Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Arizona State, etc. Come up with a better excuse than that or just admit that you are a bit concerned that you would take a few more arse whippings every year if you joined the SEC. As great as TX has been, Arkansas was usually #2 in the old SWC, and every once in a while would win the SWC. I bring that up because Arkansas has been mediocre since joining the SEC, but we have still managed to kick Longhorn arse all over the Cotton Bowl, and we ambushed your biatch asses in Austin. We beat your arse so bad, even Bevo was crying. Deep down in your burnt orange heart you know that TX could not dominate the SEC like you have the Big 12 and should the PAC 10. Bottom line is that TX is not joining the SEC because they are scared of competition. Have fun in the PAC 16, and even if it ends up being the Pac 25, the SEC will remain the Mecca of College Football....BTW, Alabama just scored another touchdown in the BCS Championship game
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Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:14 am to packdaddy75
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I bring that up because Arkansas has been mediocre since joining the SEC, but we have still managed to kick Longhorn arse all over the Cotton Bowl, and we ambushed your biatch asses in Austin. We beat your arse so bad, even Bevo was crying. Deep down in your burnt orange heart you know that TX could not dominate the SEC like you have the Big 12 and should the PAC 10. Bottom line is that TX is not joining the SEC because they are scared of competition.
Ouch.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:24 am to TexTgrTed
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Ouch.
Hey Longhorns...WARNING: Do not open link unless you would like to relive 2 QB's getting knocked out of the game (that's what happens when you are a finesse Big 12 team facing an SEC defense) or if you are expecting a highlight of a texass running back....you had negative rushing yards this day in the Cotton Bowl. Way to represent the Big 12 in a bowl game....no wonder your conference is falling apart faster than an 8 team all TX conference without Razorbacks
2000 Cotton Bowl......SEC Dominance
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:31 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Nice long post to cover up what may be an embarrassing situation for UT, but no one is going to buy the BS you are shoveling.
A&M to the SEC will be a kick in the nuts for UT, period.
UT should have joined the SEC or been man enough not to use the academic bullshite line in a money grab that is mostly about football.
My take why Texas did not want to go to the SEC is threefold:
1. Competition. It would be years before Texas made the SECCG. They would be just one of about 4 elite teams in any given year, and would likely not win the SEC for half a dozen years. SEC powerhouse teams would want to prove a point to Texas on the road and I think Texas would have a losing record in TS, BD, the Swamp, ect for years. Basically Texas is not interested in taking the tough road and the pride of proving yourself against the best.
2. (Appologies in advance fellow SEC fans) The SEC is a very dirty conference that buys players more than most. Texas would get outbid on some prized recruits they have their pick off right now. If not outbid, Texas would even lose some recruiting battles that were clean to some elite SEC program.
3. Texas would not call any shots in the SEC and would not be special in any way. They would be one of another half dozen powerhouse teams that all have HUGE athletic budgets and money to burn (6 of the top 11 revenue producers in the NCAA).
Bingo. Either way, it boils down to TX being pussies.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:35 am to BamaChick
Texas fn, how many onference titles has Mack Brown won? How about Bob Stoops? You think it will get any better in the pac who-gives-a-shite?
Seriously, Texas will probablt go another 35 years in between national titles!
Seriously, Texas will probablt go another 35 years in between national titles!
Posted on 6/12/10 at 1:37 am to PRK
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Wow, three teams.
Shut your mouth. Its only 2 teams since TX is one of them. They don't want to be in a conference where 2 teams have at least a 50/50 chance (or hell even a 40% chance) of beating them in any given year.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 2:23 am to OMLandshark
bottom line is TU expects to be in the nc game every year. with the competition in the pac who the frick cares, they probably make it 2/3 of the time...the fact that they are playing late games in a different time zone will cost them. if they were to join the sec, this would not happen....
there are two things that texas are afraid of....the sec....and atm joining the sec and tellin ut to frick off...
maybe atm needs to join the sec soon so that they can be on the offensive end and tell the texas schools "sorry, we cant play yall any more"...because you know as well as anyone, that is what they wanna tell atm if the aggies are sec bound....
ok aTm...make it happen!
man, i really hope that aTm joins the sec....screw texas...
there are two things that texas are afraid of....the sec....and atm joining the sec and tellin ut to frick off...
maybe atm needs to join the sec soon so that they can be on the offensive end and tell the texas schools "sorry, we cant play yall any more"...because you know as well as anyone, that is what they wanna tell atm if the aggies are sec bound....
ok aTm...make it happen!
man, i really hope that aTm joins the sec....screw texas...
Posted on 6/12/10 at 2:26 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas
Posted on 6/12/10 at 2:28 am to OMLandshark
This guy ought to be ashamed- I thought Texas ws a good school, but apparently simple logic is not taught at UT (not a surprise really, consiering its liberal leanings). When the talk first began that Texas might go to the Big 10, the major complaint out of Texs was that Texas A&M would block the move becuase they would not be able to get in. Venom was spewed and A&M was villified becuase they would (supposedly) not allow Texas to do what was best for them and their school. What happened? The original poster (dumbass extrodanair)wants the good people of this board to believe that its "the politicians" who want both schools to remain together- not Texas. But how much sense does this make? The politicians do not make athletic schedules- they control funding. In other words, if it were the politicians who so abhorred this move, they would make it known (behind closed doors of course) that Texas A&M funding would be disrupted if they were to not move to the Pac 10. But that was NOT the threat that was made. The threat that was made was that the Texas schools going to the Pac 10 would not longer scedule the Aggies in sporting events. THAT is not a politician's move- that is an thletic department move. There are only two possible reasons for such a threat (after all, many rivalries such as Georgia georgia tech, Florida FSU and Clemson USCe are maintained quite well though the two teams reside in different conferences). Number 1, Texas fears A&M growing strong by being out from under their tumb and in the premier league in college footbll. OR, umber 2, the deal Texas brokered to get the six teams in the Pac 10 is not NEAR as lucrative without all three major Texas schools on board.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:08 am to secfan123
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The reason UT falls in the BCS rankings is not the A&M, it because your conference and schedule sucks.
During the 2008, which we have been discussing (3 way tie year), Texas did play 6 ranked teams including a stretch of 4 top 12 teams in a row (an they came within a few seconds of winning all 4).
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if it were the politicians who so abhorred this move, they would make it known (behind closed doors of course) that Texas A&M funding would be disrupted if they were to not move to the Pac 10
I think that is why things are taking so long. I think A&M is catching all kinds of hell in the form of threats from state politicians for going off on their own......if A&M does a 180 and goes to the PAC 16, this will be why they do it.
As for the Texas is scared talk.......I know that is a fun drum to beat on an SEC board, but as I have said previously.......long before Saban came to Bama or Urban cam to UF, the Texas bigwigs have had a hard on for the PAC 10. My first choice is the Big 10 ($ and CIC), then independence, then the SEC and finally the PAC 10. We all know your conf champ will be seeing Texas in a national title game very soon. I'm looking forward to it.....
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:12 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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Hey Longhorns...WARNING: Do not open link unless you would like to relive 2 QB's getting knocked out of the game (that's what happens when you are a finesse Big 12 team facing an SEC defense) or if you are expecting a highlight of a texass running back....you had negative rushing yards this day in the Cotton Bowl. Way to represent the Big 12 in a bowl game....no wonder your conference is falling apart faster than an 8 team all TX conference without Razorbacks
Some schools brag about recent BCS titles and some schools proudly proclaim their regular season accomplishments from 10 years ago because, well, that is all they have. I could talk about what happened the last time our 2 schools met, but I just can't bring myself to do it......I pity you guys too much......
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:15 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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We all know your conf champ will be seeing Texas in a national title game very soon. I'm looking forward to it.....
You might be right now, but after 2-3 years of playing nobodies in the PAC-pussy league, Texas will get soft and start getting their arse handed to them like Ohio State playing in a weak Big 10 for years.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:19 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas fears A&M growing strong by being out from under their tumb and in the premier league in college footbll.
We really don't......I want them to join the SEC ASAP.
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the deal Texas brokered to get the six teams in the Pac 10 is not NEAR as lucrative without all three major Texas schools on board.
You insult my intelligence and then you post this abortion of logic? A&M (or Texas Tech) delivers no market that Texas doesn't already have covered. In fact, A&M out of the PAC 16 and replaced with a school bringing some fresh eyeballs to the table (like Utah bringing the Salt Lake City market) could only sweeten the deal.
secfan123, go work yourself into a lather by posting a few "texas is skeered" comments so you can feel good about yourself again because you are too small a dog to wander in the tall grass.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:21 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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You might be right now, but after 2-3 years of playing nobodies in the PAC-pussy league, Texas will get soft and start getting their arse handed to them like Ohio State playing in a weak Big 10 for years.
I think Ohio State might actually have the athletes to avail themselves well this season but that is another conversation. As for Texas, with the athletes we have now and with the ones committed to coming on board, we'll be just fine in the future. We'll be anything but soft.
This post was edited on 6/12/10 at 6:23 am
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:24 am to Dr Drunkenstein
I have no doubt Texas will be fine for a while. I do think Texas insulting the SEC with their academic bullshite excuse (that is the way I see it), was a mistake as was joining the new Pac whatever.
Time will tell I suppose.
Time will tell I suppose.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:27 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I do think Texas insulting the SEC with their academic bullshite excuse (that is the way I see it), was a mistake
You know what is funny, the concept of Texas insulting the academics of the SEC exists only on boards like this one. The only time academics factored in to things from a Texas perspective is in regards to CIC membership if/when Texas joined the Big 10. Somehow, a positive for the BIG 10 was spun into an overt negative for the SEC. Texas fans are smart enough to realize that Vandy and UF do just fine in the SEC. Rice does well in its mid-tier conference. SEC academics are not an issue.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:31 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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SEC academics are not an issue.
Well, I appreciate the honesty. That is not the impression I have from UT boards, which has left a bad taste in my mouth and a negative impression.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:36 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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That is not the impression I have from UT boards, which has left a bad taste in my mouth and a negative impression.
I have my own business which means I can spend as much time a I want goofing around football message boards and talking about realignment. I'm sure it comes as no surprise that I am all over many of the Texas boards. I have yet to see a "We can't go to the SEC because their academics suck" thread. I genuinely can't figure out what boards you have visited.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:07 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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The over-whelming majority of Texas fans, and the university bigwigs, want A&M to go their own way. It is the politicians who want to keep 'everyone' together in an attempt to appease the Tech and Baylor camps.
From my entire family of UT alumni, every generation, this is the biggest bunch of crap I've ever read. You're just another dumbass trying to justify the run for the dollars.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:27 am to molsusports
Texas HS kids will choose to play in the SEC rather than the PAC 10. Their parents will too. A&M, LSU and ARK will rack up on recruiting Texas players.
UT and OU will lose.
A&M will become a powerhouse again like they were in the 80s. Stallings/Slocum/Perry will pave the way.
UT and OU will lose.
A&M will become a powerhouse again like they were in the 80s. Stallings/Slocum/Perry will pave the way.
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