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the SEC if you were God
Posted on 9/21/11 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 9/21/11 at 5:51 pm
If you could start over and create the SEC in your own image, what would it look like? What schools would you have as members and why.
12
Posted on 9/21/11 at 6:22 pm to tigersnducks
Same teams as today
-Arkansas
-Kentucky
+FSU
+Clemson
-Arkansas
-Kentucky
+FSU
+Clemson
Posted on 9/21/11 at 6:40 pm to tigersnducks
I prefer regional aligned conference roosters generating great rivalries in cfb.
Al - UA, Aub
Ark - UA
Fl - UF, FSU
Ga - UG, GTech
La - LSU
Ms - UM, MSU
NC - UNC, NCS
Tn - UT
SC - USC, CU
Va - VT
If go more then 16, I would consider A&M only if Aggie jokes were allowed on TD.
Al - UA, Aub
Ark - UA
Fl - UF, FSU
Ga - UG, GTech
La - LSU
Ms - UM, MSU
NC - UNC, NCS
Tn - UT
SC - USC, CU
Va - VT
If go more then 16, I would consider A&M only if Aggie jokes were allowed on TD.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 6:52 pm to tigersnducks
14 Teams:
Kentucky
VaTech
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vandy
Ole Miss
Alabama
Texas A&M
LSU
MSU
Auburn
Florida
Clemson
Georgia
Kentucky
VaTech
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vandy
Ole Miss
Alabama
Texas A&M
LSU
MSU
Auburn
Florida
Clemson
Georgia
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:18 pm to Tawanda
add A&M, Mizzou to the West
add Florida St. and Virginia Tech to the East
add Florida St. and Virginia Tech to the East
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:20 pm to Tawanda
West division:
LSU
A&M
Mizzou
Arkansas
Central division:
Ole Miss
Miss. St
Alabama
Auburn
South division:
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
North division:
UNC
Va Tech
USCe
Kentucky
Balanced divisions (don't split up the largest rivalries and keep one out-of-division rivalry intact yearly for each team), maybe switching Tennessee for Kentucky because that is the division with the most history. It also accomplishes everything the money men want: more markets, more teams that have respectable, profitable athletic programs, all within the region, all in new states, and they don't create a conference that is literally impossible to escape without two losses like adding FSU, Oklahoma, Texas, w/e might.
The other thing that makes it work neatly is that the oldest traditional cross-divisional rivalries are between the Central and the South - so you have the potential to either pair those two divisions up one one side of a four-team divisional champion bracket late in the season, adding the excitement that a playoff elimination game from a traditional rivalry would bring to the table, or you can just make an elaborate series of tiebreakers that function to eliminate the champion of one of those divisions if the divisional champions have identical win-loss, and do something similar with the new teams, creating new cross-divisional yearly matchups which could be lots of fun.
LSU
A&M
Mizzou
Arkansas
Central division:
Ole Miss
Miss. St
Alabama
Auburn
South division:
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
North division:
UNC
Va Tech
USCe
Kentucky
Balanced divisions (don't split up the largest rivalries and keep one out-of-division rivalry intact yearly for each team), maybe switching Tennessee for Kentucky because that is the division with the most history. It also accomplishes everything the money men want: more markets, more teams that have respectable, profitable athletic programs, all within the region, all in new states, and they don't create a conference that is literally impossible to escape without two losses like adding FSU, Oklahoma, Texas, w/e might.
The other thing that makes it work neatly is that the oldest traditional cross-divisional rivalries are between the Central and the South - so you have the potential to either pair those two divisions up one one side of a four-team divisional champion bracket late in the season, adding the excitement that a playoff elimination game from a traditional rivalry would bring to the table, or you can just make an elaborate series of tiebreakers that function to eliminate the champion of one of those divisions if the divisional champions have identical win-loss, and do something similar with the new teams, creating new cross-divisional yearly matchups which could be lots of fun.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:56 pm to RollTigers
Trade auburn for Troy or anyone for that matter.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:20 pm to tigersnducks
I'm kind of surprised that most of y'all wouldn't make many changes. I think if I had my choices I would go with:
East
Florida
Georgia
Clemson
North Carolina
Va Tech
Tennessee
West
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
I see no need in having Vandy in the league they just don't seem to fit overall, although Nashville is nice. I also don't think that Mississippi only needs 1 school in it. I like the idea of having all of the major media markets and having some great tradition mixed in as well.
East
Florida
Georgia
Clemson
North Carolina
Va Tech
Tennessee
West
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
I see no need in having Vandy in the league they just don't seem to fit overall, although Nashville is nice. I also don't think that Mississippi only needs 1 school in it. I like the idea of having all of the major media markets and having some great tradition mixed in as well.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:45 pm to tigersnducks
Something like this.
West
Auburn
Alabama
LSU
Ole Miss
MSU
Arkansas
East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
West
Auburn
Alabama
LSU
Ole Miss
MSU
Arkansas
East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:09 pm to tigersnducks
And fire Slive!
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:21 pm to Tiger 1964
West / East (rivals side by side)
A&M / Clemson
LSU / Florida
Arkansas / Florida St
Alabama / Tennessee
Auburn / Georgia
Ole Miss / Virginia Tech
Miss State / South Carolina
Kentucky / UNC
A&M / Clemson
LSU / Florida
Arkansas / Florida St
Alabama / Tennessee
Auburn / Georgia
Ole Miss / Virginia Tech
Miss State / South Carolina
Kentucky / UNC
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:23 pm to tigersnducks
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Auburn
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
South Carolina.
That's right. 11 teams. frick Arkansas.
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Auburn
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
South Carolina.
That's right. 11 teams. frick Arkansas.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:27 pm to BayouBengals03
West: LSU, Tulane, Arkansas, Ole Miss, State, Vandy
East: Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Florida, South Carolina
Gumps and barners get the death penalty.
East: Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Florida, South Carolina
Gumps and barners get the death penalty.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:38 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Or a 12 team version I would like (add A&M/Clemson, subtract SC/Vandy):
West / East Rival
A&M / Clemson
LSU / Florida
Arkansas / Georgia
Miss St / Kentucky
Ole Miss / Tennessee
Alabama / Auburn
West / East Rival
A&M / Clemson
LSU / Florida
Arkansas / Georgia
Miss St / Kentucky
Ole Miss / Tennessee
Alabama / Auburn
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:39 pm to tigersnducks
LSU, Ole miss, Miss State, UT, UK, Tulane, Sewannee, UGA, Ga Tech, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Vandy.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:13 am to Adam Banks
We are pretty close to ideal the way we are. I think 12 is a good number b/c I really like the SECCG, but we are still small enough there is pretty good cohesion in the conference and every team plays every other team fairly regularly.
IMO Kentucky doesn't really fit in b/c it is more a basketball school and is too far North. I'd swap them for Clemson.
The only other possible change would be maybe swapping Arkansas for FSU.
We would have the SECCG as usual. There would be an eight team playoff for the National Championship. Winners of SEC, B1G, Pac-12, Big-12 and ACC, with three wild cards. First round played at the home stadium of the higher ranked team. Semi-finals and championship game would rotate between the Rose, Sugar and Orange bowls.
IMO Kentucky doesn't really fit in b/c it is more a basketball school and is too far North. I'd swap them for Clemson.
The only other possible change would be maybe swapping Arkansas for FSU.
We would have the SECCG as usual. There would be an eight team playoff for the National Championship. Winners of SEC, B1G, Pac-12, Big-12 and ACC, with three wild cards. First round played at the home stadium of the higher ranked team. Semi-finals and championship game would rotate between the Rose, Sugar and Orange bowls.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:26 am to GumBro Jackson
Auburn
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Vandy
Ole Miss
Miss
LSU
Tennessee
(Kick Arkie and USCe back to the curb) I liked the old 10 team SEC...
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Vandy
Ole Miss
Miss
LSU
Tennessee
(Kick Arkie and USCe back to the curb) I liked the old 10 team SEC...
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:48 am to allin2010
East:
Clemson
Florida
Florida St
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
West:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss
Vandy to the ACC, Kentucky to the Big East (conference foes w/ Louisville)
Clemson
Florida
Florida St
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
West:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss
Vandy to the ACC, Kentucky to the Big East (conference foes w/ Louisville)
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:53 am to GumBro Jackson
SEC North:
Vandy, UK, UNC, VT, TN, USCe, UGA, Arky
SEC South:
A&M, LSU, OM, MSU, AL, AU, FSU, UF.
You play each of the 7 other teams in your division, one permanent team from the other division, and a 2 year cycle home and home with a team from the other division.
permanant opponents:
AU-UGA
AL-TN
FSU-VT
Arky-A&M
OM-Vandy
MSU-UK
UNC-LSU
UF-USCe
If I were the NCAA God, I would have 4 16 team AQ super conferences: PAC 12, Big 10+6, SEC, and ACC. Then one non-AQ conference: CUSA.
There would be no rankings as everything would be based on W/L records. until the end of the season, and each team would have at least one permanent opponent from another AQ conference.
The conference Champions from the PAC 16/Big 10+6 and SEC/ACC would play each other at the home stadium of the host school. odd years: SEC/Big10+6 hosts, even: ACC/Pac12 hosts.
The conference championships are held in the current championship week, then a bye week before the playoff.
The BCS games would retain the current structure.
The 4 playoff teams would end up playing 15 games total.
The losers of the two playoff games get a spot in one of the current BCS bowls to determine 3rd and 4th place. The Conference runner ups of the two NC game participant's conferences get a BCS bowl bid together. The 3rd BCS game is the runner ups to the other 2 conferences, and the 4th features an at-large AQ team and the CUSA champion. The non BCS bowls pick up the rest of the teams.
This way you get to keep the current bowl structure, while adding a playoff.
Vandy, UK, UNC, VT, TN, USCe, UGA, Arky
SEC South:
A&M, LSU, OM, MSU, AL, AU, FSU, UF.
You play each of the 7 other teams in your division, one permanent team from the other division, and a 2 year cycle home and home with a team from the other division.
permanant opponents:
AU-UGA
AL-TN
FSU-VT
Arky-A&M
OM-Vandy
MSU-UK
UNC-LSU
UF-USCe
If I were the NCAA God, I would have 4 16 team AQ super conferences: PAC 12, Big 10+6, SEC, and ACC. Then one non-AQ conference: CUSA.
There would be no rankings as everything would be based on W/L records. until the end of the season, and each team would have at least one permanent opponent from another AQ conference.
The conference Champions from the PAC 16/Big 10+6 and SEC/ACC would play each other at the home stadium of the host school. odd years: SEC/Big10+6 hosts, even: ACC/Pac12 hosts.
The conference championships are held in the current championship week, then a bye week before the playoff.
The BCS games would retain the current structure.
The 4 playoff teams would end up playing 15 games total.
The losers of the two playoff games get a spot in one of the current BCS bowls to determine 3rd and 4th place. The Conference runner ups of the two NC game participant's conferences get a BCS bowl bid together. The 3rd BCS game is the runner ups to the other 2 conferences, and the 4th features an at-large AQ team and the CUSA champion. The non BCS bowls pick up the rest of the teams.
This way you get to keep the current bowl structure, while adding a playoff.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:55 am to Gtiger9757
"Song girls" at *every* school!
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