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Texas Tech delusion...

Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:03 am
Posted by OilAg
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:03 am
I will be the first to say that I personally would like to see Tech come with A&M to the SEC to give us a conference partner who we would have some influence with from day 1 (most Aggies do not feel this way --- I am definitely one of the very few). However, I also know the odds of Tech being invited are slim to none. Below is a post by a guy who is supposedly a big donor that he made on the Raider Power premium board (and this was then re-posted on Texags for my viewing pleasure...)


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Just got of the phone with my dad and his legislative buddy and kind of got the scoop. For those that don't already know, this is a life long friend of my dad's, Tech alum, very plugged in, and former state legislator (a very well respected one...). We did a conference call, so I got to ask questions directly. I'll try and be brief, but it will take a bit...

A&M - They aren't coming back unless hell really does freeze over...

The SEC - Slive is taking the gloves off b/c of Baylor and UT trying to meddle. The SEC is very much after Mizz, and would like to add Tech and KU as well... They would really, really like to add Tech b/c Tech would expand them clear across Texas and would cut UT off to an extent. We also would be a regional partner for A&M. KU is much the same as Tech in this situation, they'd compliment KU very well. WVU was spurned b/c they think they can get Tech, Mizz and KU. If that fails, they might re-visit the WVU idea. *I'll get to Tech's stance on this further down...

The ACC - Not a realistic option... His words...

The Big 10 - They don't want us, we don't want them, mutually beneficial hate...

The Big East - Adding schools from here isn't an option yet b/c it's likely they'll get further plundered....

The Big 12(redux).... Some of the administration is hoping for this, b/c they're scared to see us go out on our own... Most of the administration think this idea is horrible. I was told that the conference would end up being a travel nightmare, completely watered down and filled with teams that truly hate each other.

The Pac12 - Right now they're putting the screws to UT, and they really, really don't care if UT comes or not... Rice is NOT an option. He said he hadn't heard that at all, and he's talked to Scott personally.. The rumor that OU doesn't have the votes is bull***** OU, OSU and Tech have the votes... Arizona, AZ State, Cal, Colorado and Stanford are objecting to OU and OSU, but it's mainly posturing... The only one really objecting to Tech is Colorado... That needs no explanation..

Now on to Tech's position on all this... There's a sentiment that's growing that the PAC may not be of much benefit to Tech other than an upgrade in a TV contract... The thought is that we (Tech) are wanting to expand the Jones to accommodate 72,000 in the future. We want to sell that 72k out... The thought is that ticket sales will be an issue... Obviously OU, UT, USC and Oregon would sell out the Jones every year, but we won't have all four of those at home any year... So we'll likely have 1-2 guaranteed sell outs per year, the rest would be up in the air... People will show up for the first year, but the newness will wear off, and our fans just don't identify with the PAC schools... Conversely, the thought is, if we go with the SEC, we'll sell out a lot of games (even at 72k). SEC fans will also travel, west coast fans will not (proven fact)... The Jones would sell out for LSU, Georgia, Bama, Florida, Tennessee, A&M, Auburn, you get the idea... The only teams that aren't a big draw for the Tech fan base are Vandy, Ole Miss and Miss St.. Word is, if the 4 Big 12 teams the SEC wants join, the TV contracts would top 50 mil for sure and likely come close to 60 mil (insane, I know)... He wasn't willing to say that the SEC was favored right now, but don't be surprised if, all of a sudden, we are #15 or 16... He did say that the more time that goes by, the worse the chances are of the PAC being our home b/c we're very concerned about the things mentioned... He told me that many of our big money donors are balking at the PAC idea, but are fully on board with the SEC idea. Nobody likes the Big 12 idea unless A&M stays... He also said that Guy Bailey has some serious SEC connections and is getting a lot done here and Tuberville has been of great help here as well... Just know that our president and HC seem to prefer the SEC...

He said that OU was brilliant by going on the offensive and giving the list of demands. They all seem reasonable to reasonable people, but UT will not be reasonable.. This will make OU, OSU and A&M that have put UT out there as the bad guy. They basically are beat UT at their own game, and UT is pissed....

I was also told that our administration had felt betrayed by UT earlier this year, but when UT let it float out there that they were going to start a dirty PR campaign against Tech, well, that was the end of that marriage... Now, does that mean we don't stick with them, no, but our "partnership" with them is done. So, ultimately, we're "exploring all options". He said at this point nothing would surprise him b/c it all changes hourly.. There is no real time table, but the SEC would like to get enough Big 12 members to force OU and OSU west and just dissolve the conference and wipe out the lawsuit etc... He wouldn't make a prediction on where we end up, but he said if he and the donors had any say in it, it wouldn't be the Big 12... So, there you go....
Posted by Wolf Shirt
the boardwalk
Member since Sep 2008
10558 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:08 am to
bullshite
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5182 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:35 am to




uhhh...no.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:37 am to
frick no
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5561 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:44 am to
What delusion.. No one wants Texas Tech. Baylor is a better overall add than Texas Tech.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:51 am to
baylor is definitely not better than tech.

tech has fans. shitty fans-but a lot of fans none the less.

Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:55 am to
Tech will only cut into aggie's recruiting base. Tech gets to play in the SEC and they can walk on the grass. Tech to SEC is not a good idea.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:58 am to
Tech will only cut into aggie's recruiting base.

no more than they do now. go to lubbock...you will see why any 4 or 5 star recruits MUST be getting paid to go there.
Posted by Sherwood Brotron
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
508 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:58 am to
Please no.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:59 am to
the ONLY reason why I would be okay with tech, is b/c I fly to Lubbock for work. I could make game trips for free.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5561 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:00 am to
quote:

baylor is definitely not better than tech.

tech has fans. shitty fans-but a lot of fans none the less.


Baylor is comparatively better. Far better overall athletic program. Far better academics.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 8:01 am
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:02 am to
better academics. that's it.

tech has a better football program and the support of fans.

but, let's get real here. slive doesn't need baylor's academics. OR Ken Starr.
Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:07 am to
But Tech has this guy...


While Baylor has this guy...


Advantage Tech!
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:09 am to
This is all about $.
The $ comes from TV revenue.

Neither Baylor or Tech brings in anything A&M isn't already bringing......
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5561 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Neither Baylor or Tech brings in anything A&M isn't already bringing......


For once I agree with you. Those schools (and TCU) would just taking another slice of the same size pie.
Posted by fwatts003
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
25 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:56 pm to
Tech is a bunch of Redneck West TX rejects. They did Hire a super coach in Leach who took 2-3 star recruits and molded them into his system. Credit given when credit due! T.T is a steady coach but without greenbacks thrown at recruits it will be hard to lure anyone to Lubbock! 7-8hr road trip for in state conference games! NOT!Plus a Tech degree is considered just as good has a ITT tech degree.
Posted by Gtiger9757
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
8730 posts
Posted on 9/23/11 at 12:20 am to
quote:

would like to add Tech and KU as well



stopped reading after that.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 9/23/11 at 12:23 am to
No chance in hell for tech the travel to go to lubbock is ridiculous.
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 9/23/11 at 12:35 am to
Where is Mike Leach when you need him? Sorry, short term memory loss.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 9/23/11 at 12:38 am to
So Tubbs was a plant after all... It's all so clear now.
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