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re: Stay put, Texas
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Where are they not going to come from? They'll come from the same places they came from in the early 1990's. West coast, east coast, midwest, etc....
yes, do you understand the inherent contradiction in your comment? Where are the great OOC teams Texas can schedule going to come from?
quote:Ok...Texas will never have any trouble getting a good schedule.
Especially If the other great teams are in tougher conferences and not scheduling tough OOC games? You can't just schedule teams, they have to agree to play you, and better teams will generally not agree to a game unless it is a home and home.
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:32 pm to xiv
I think you should have this conversation with yourself at home.....you definately would have won.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:32 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:H-Town and I can handle it from here. Thanks, though.
LSUintheNW
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:32 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
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The top teams are in the SEC period
yes, but they are up and down as well. Bama for example was 14-0 last year, 2 years before that they were 7-6 and lost to ULM.
Look at their SEC schedule last year: Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, OM, MSU, Tenn, USCe, UK. Is that really that tough? The best team in there had the #112 offense in the nation and lost 3 games and struggled with some crappy teams. Everyone else lost at least 4. I see no reason to think Texas would not go 8-0 or 7-1 at worst with that schedule.
After that of courseyou have the SEC CG vs Florida. I do think Florida was better than Texas, but so what, so they go 8-1, maybe 7-2. Better han anyone Bama played save Florida.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:FIFY
yes, but they are up and down as well. Bama for example was 14-0 last year, 2 years before that they were 2-6 and lost to ULM.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:34 pm to xiv
yep....you got it alright.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
yes, but they are up and down as well. Bama for example was 14-0 last year, 2 years before that they were 7-6 and lost to ULM.
Look at their SEC schedule last year: Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, OM, MSU, Tenn, USCe, UK. Is that really that tough? The best team in there had the #112 offense in the nation and lost 3 games and struggled with some crappy teams. Everyone else lost at least 4. I see no reason to think Texas would not go 8-0 or 7-1 at worst with that schedule.
After that of courseyou have the SEC CG vs Florida. I do think Florida was better than Texas, but so what, so they go 8-1, maybe 7-2. Better han anyone Bama played save Florida.
I agree with you that pretty much every team can be up and down. The difference is when a team in the SEC is down they are still better than 90% of other teams in weaker conferences. Most of Alabams losses still came from within a conference that houses the best teams. Time will tell that when Texas has to play decent competition week in and week out they won't be in the Title picture any longer.
This post was edited on 6/10/10 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:40 pm to xiv
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2-6 and lost to ULM.
FIFY
I almost put that
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:42 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
quote:If Texas stays put, they'll basically be a central USC (except they won't have to cheat to be great). They'll always win their relatively weak conference, and occasionally it'll bite 'em in the arse like it did for USC (SOS kept 'em out of three title games), but they'll always be in the title picture at least.
I agree with you that pretty much every team can be up and down. The difference is when a team in the SEC is down they are still better than 90% of other teams in weaker conferences. Most of Alabams losses still came from within a conference that houses the best teams. Time will tell that when Texas has to play decent competition week in and week out they won't be in the Title picture any longer.
I just have a hard time believing that Texas needs the Pac-10 to make money. Something tells me that the Pac-10 needs Texas more than vice versa.
This post was edited on 6/10/10 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:43 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
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Time will tell that when Texas has to play decent competition week in and week out they won't be in the Title picture any longer.
Fella it sounds like your SEC homerism has gone to your head. Please explain why the flagship college football program from the state with argueably the best HS football in the country wouldn't be able to compete?
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:47 pm to xiv
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Texas will never have any trouble getting a good schedule.
Do you know why Texas played at Wyoming last year? Because Arkansas got an offer to play A&M at Jerry world in Dallas and they didn't have time to get another good team. They got Wyoming to committ to 2 in Austin for 1 trip to Wy. Its not as easy as you are making it out to be to schedule good OOC games. Both teams have to agree. If the other teams are going to super conferences, how many of them will be willing to still schedule big OOC games? How many of thosw will be top teams and not say an NC State or Ole Miss type team? Of the ones that do from time to time, they will have other options as well, like playing each other or Notre Dame.
They can't just pick up the phone and get who ever they want at any time.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:49 pm to xiv
quote:
If Texas stays put, they'll basically be a central USC (except they won't have to cheat to be great). They'll always win their relatively weak conference, and occasionally it'll bite 'em in the arse like it did for USC (SOS kept 'em out of three title games), but they'll always be in the title picture at least.
I just have a hard time believing that Texas needs the Pac-10 to make money. Something tells me that the Pac-10 needs Texas more than vice versa.
All I know is if Texas goes to the Pac-10 they will have alot more competition and maybe they will put up a fight if they do make it to the Title game
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:50 pm to xiv
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I just have a hard time believing that Texas needs the Pac-10 to make money
They don't need the Pac 10 to make money, but they do to make even more money. If a 25% share of 1 TV deal gets you $10M/year and 1/16 of another gets you $20M/year its not to hard to figure out which is better.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:53 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
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they will have alot more competition and maybe they will put up a fight if they do make it to the Title game
Dude, they have been to 2 BCS CG. They won 1. Last year with about 3-74 minutes left, they had the ball and the chance to take the lead. They were down 24-6 at one point and cut it to 21-24. All that with a back up true frosh QB that was forced into the game when the starter got hurt. That's called putting up a fight.
If you hate Texas fine, but leave the SEC homerism on the SECrant please.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:55 pm to dudeilovebeer
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Fella it sounds like your SEC homerism has gone to your head. Please explain why the flagship college football program from the state with argueably the best HS football in the country wouldn't be able to compete?
How well has Texas done in the last 10 years in the title game? They have been what twice, won one and lost one. Not that great from the power house state. Also explain to me how the best football state just produced a Super Bowl winning QB for the first time in 44 Super Bowls?
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If you hate Texas fine, but leave the SEC homerism on the SECrant please.
Totally agree with you H-Town. His posts sound a bit "uninformed".
BTW...if Texas cake walked it into the BCSCG and didn't get there by merit then what team got screwed out of playing Bama? Who was better than Texas?
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If you hate Texas fine, but leave the SEC homerism on the SECrant please.
I can't stand texas.....but I gave them props for doing what they did. You can only wonder what might have happened if Colt didn't get hurt. They actually surprised me tbh.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:04 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
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The difference is when a team in the SEC is down they are still better than 90% of other teams in weaker conferences.
This is just blantant homerism and patently untrue. LSU was the 3rd best team in the SEC. Were we really that good last year? Our offense was not #112 simply because the SEC defenses are so freaking awesome. We were 1-1 against non SEC BCS teams.
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Most of Alabams losses still came from within a conference that houses the best teams.
Dude, they lost to the freaking University of Louisiana Monroe
You do not play a teams historical record, you play a team in a given season. Playing LSU in 1999, 2003 and 2008 are 3 entirely different things. Most years there are only 2 really good teams in the SEC and several other great programs that may have great traditions, but vary in quality from year to year. The 2006 SEC was sick, but last year was not nearly that strong. It varies. Texas has great tradtion and plenty of talent. To think they would not be able to compete in the SEC or that some SEC also ran, like Arkansas or Ole Miss would roll into the Big 12 and win like Texas does is foolish.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:15 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
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How well has Texas done in the last 10 years in the title game? They have been what twice, won one and lost one. Not that great from the power house state
ok. in the last 10 years only 2 teams have won more title games than Texas. Only 3 teams (LSU 2-0, Florida 2-0, Bama 1-0) have better winning percentages and 2 others Miami and USC are also 1-1. That's what is called elite company. quote:
. Also explain to me how the best football state just produced a Super Bowl winning QB for the first time in 44 Super Bowls?
Really? There are 21 other positions. Take a look at how many Super Bowl winners at those positions and in the Hall of Fame are from Texas.
You hate Texas, not just the school but the state, we got it. The bias is making you look like a fool.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
Honestly, I think Texas should go independent and let the other Texas schools join conferences. Seems like Texas and Notre Dame want to play each other in football yearly; so, maybe Texas could get in on ND's tv contract. That would free Texas up to play the other Texas schools, play Notre Dame, and only have to share tv money with Notre Dame. I;m sure NBC would like some of that Texas market. UT supposedly rakes the money in; so, I don't see why they need a conference as much as a conference wants them.
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