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re: SEC is Behind the Eight Ball
Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:55 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:55 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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DC doesn't give 2 farts about WVU.
um right so the 15k wvu fans in maryland yesterday proves the wvu has no base in dc you are a fricking tard
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Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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expanding just to expand is ignorant.
It's out of necessity IMO. The whole face of FBS football could change in the next few weeks. The SEC wouldn't expand at all if it didn't feel it was necessary.
This
Or get left in the dust
Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:56 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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I lived in So Fla for 5 years. More UM interest tan you think.....even by non-alums.
Hell no, there isn't. UM has more of a national following than a local following.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:57 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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TCU and aTm make the SEC native to both houston and dallas, which is big.
TCU delivers Dallas? No.....not even close.
the combination of TCU and aTm give the sec a massive presence in DFW. this is a FACT.
furthermore its not about "delivering" a market.. its about making your conference "native" to a market.
being native increases your tv and media share. it increases your profile and in turn adds value to any potential tv contract.
these are facts that are indisputable.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 5:59 pm to jcole4lsu
Overall national brand is only useful when being bid on by several networks. Adding WV is great if the SEC has a SEC Network. Since the SEC passed on that right for a bigger payout and are locked in long term the national brand concept is pretty much irrelevant.
The real driver in the TV revenue game for the SEC is now footprint, DMAs and market penetration.
WV has great market penetration in WV, the problem is that it provides little actual value in DMA's or really does not expand the footprint. I am not even sure that they provide enough value to break even for the SEC.
Taking away WV from the BE is not a huge boon for the SEC. A&M provides a huge regional footprint and it can be argued that they can provide the Houston DMA (argued, not necessarily a fact with the mix of UH, LSU, and UT fans in Houston as well) but they lag behind UT statewide, OU in DFW and potentially LSU in Houston.
What hurts in all of this is that without the ACC (more importantly without either VT, FSU or UNC) or OU/UT there is now not a national name providing either an untapped major DMA or a currently heavily contested DMA. The best real choice is Missouri and I am not sure they are really a SEC fit.
Adding TCU or UH effectively admits that A&M cannot carry any of the Texas markets (Houston and DFW particularly) and either addition may not make the SEC the prime player in either DMA.
Make no bones about it, the ACC effectively screwed the SEC by killing the BE. Everyone assumed he BE would kill off the ACC and there would be a free for all on ACC teams. Without those teams that match the SEC profile available the SEC is looking at some poor choices that will be unlikely to massively shift the payout per school.
The real driver in the TV revenue game for the SEC is now footprint, DMAs and market penetration.
WV has great market penetration in WV, the problem is that it provides little actual value in DMA's or really does not expand the footprint. I am not even sure that they provide enough value to break even for the SEC.
Taking away WV from the BE is not a huge boon for the SEC. A&M provides a huge regional footprint and it can be argued that they can provide the Houston DMA (argued, not necessarily a fact with the mix of UH, LSU, and UT fans in Houston as well) but they lag behind UT statewide, OU in DFW and potentially LSU in Houston.
What hurts in all of this is that without the ACC (more importantly without either VT, FSU or UNC) or OU/UT there is now not a national name providing either an untapped major DMA or a currently heavily contested DMA. The best real choice is Missouri and I am not sure they are really a SEC fit.
Adding TCU or UH effectively admits that A&M cannot carry any of the Texas markets (Houston and DFW particularly) and either addition may not make the SEC the prime player in either DMA.
Make no bones about it, the ACC effectively screwed the SEC by killing the BE. Everyone assumed he BE would kill off the ACC and there would be a free for all on ACC teams. Without those teams that match the SEC profile available the SEC is looking at some poor choices that will be unlikely to massively shift the payout per school.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:02 pm to 1999
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swofford got the jump on slive.
Swofford and Scott both. The ACC gets the northeast, the Pac gets both California and Texas in the same conference.
Although I'm not sure if Slive is the one to blame in the SEC. I think he was hamstrung by the university presidents/chancellors in what he could do.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:02 pm to laxtonto
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Adding TCU or UH effectively admits that A&M cannot carry any of the Texas markets (Houston and DFW particularly) and either addition may not make the SEC the prime player in either DMA.
aTm absolutely carries the Houston market, especially in conjuction with LSU.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:04 pm to laxtonto
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Make no bones about it, the ACC effectively screwed the SEC by killing the BE. Everyone assumed he BE would kill off the ACC and there would be a free for all on ACC teams.
Who was assuming that? The ACC was always seen as the more stable conference by nearly everyone. The Big East has been losing their top teams to the ACC for years. Why would anyone predict that would reverse?
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's out of necessity IMO
adding a fringe financial bust to the conference is never a necessity.
the SEC holds the cards here, they will not "get left in the dust" or any other of those rantiotic themes being tossed around daily.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:06 pm to laxtonto
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WV has great market penetration in WV, the problem is that it provides little actual value in DMA's or really does not expand the footprint. I am not even sure that they provide enough value to break even for the SEC.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:06 pm to jcole4lsu
WVU is a poor choice. I guess Mizzou turned us down.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:08 pm to TheDoc
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Or get left in the dust
the SEC needs to add those thursday night showstoppers or they will get left in the dust?
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:10 pm to RunningBlake
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WVU is a poor choice. I guess Mizzou turned us down.
i cant wait till me and 20k of my friends make our first trip to knoxville its gona be a party
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:14 pm to rocket31
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rocket31
I've already provided facts why WVU would be a good addition.
You haven't provided anything.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:15 pm to RunningBlake
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WVU is a poor choice.
I've provided facts why it is a good choice.
Care to counter?
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:15 pm to TheDoc
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I've already provided facts why WVU would be a good addition.
You haven't provided anything.
there seems to be an epidemic of that
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:17 pm to TheDoc
you're right bro. SEC better add WVU or they will get left in the dust.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:17 pm to TheDoc
There are no large media markets in WV. The idea that they carry a "huge" percentage of large media markets outside of WV is borderline delusional.
Folks, this is a money grab. This ain't who fits best. I do agree w/ you on that point though.
This is about TV markets, and WV doesn't have them.
Folks, this is a money grab. This ain't who fits best. I do agree w/ you on that point though.
This is about TV markets, and WV doesn't have them.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:17 pm to jcole4lsu
i wish the gov't tide poster would come back all he did was get on his his for VT and then say sorry WVU will never be in the SEC
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:18 pm to RunningBlake
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This is about TV markets, and WV doesn't have them
but but but they are willing to play thursday night games man!!!!
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