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re: Oklahoma Also Getting Fed Up with Texas

Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
Posted by LSUisjustOK
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
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FAIL


The classic response when you know you are wrong.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:39 am to
no - the only "rediculous" talking in this thread - is your inability to admit that LSU and Texas, while not neck and Neck, are a lot closer in terms of overall success than you are saying.

your being a typical Homer and being both unwilling and inflexible to admit that your team is closer to others - and that "not even close" is a false statement in regards to what Chicken was offering as a counter to you.

its ok to be a fan of a team - but at least be objective and open minded - its what seperates you from Bama Fans.
Posted by LSUisjustOK
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:42 am to
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the only "rediculous" talking in this thread - is your inability to admit that LSU and Texas, while not neck and Neck, are a lot closer in terms of overall success than you are saying.


That is purely a matter of opinion.

quote:

but at least be objective and open minded


I've done nothing but point out objective criteria. It's not like I'm saying: "yeah well our coaches are better, our stadium is bigger, and our girls are hotter."
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:46 am to
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FAIL



The classic response when you know you are wrong.



I think he was booming you because you said 2007
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:52 am to
opinion is great - but when you look at the overall "evidence" you both brough tot he table in regards to Stats, CHampionships and the like - its a LOT closer thasn you seem to be willing to admit.

Chicken wasn;t saying that LSU was as good - he was saying statistcally, - all around - not just overall wins, that both teams were closer than your origional statement of - "its not even close".

it is close.
Posted by LSUisjustOK
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:53 am to
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I think he was booming you because you said 2007


Ah, my mistake. 2003 then. The gist of my post remains the same. In 1970, Nebraska finished first in the AP poll, while Texas finished first in the coaches' poll. He said that invalidated the national championship claim by Texas.

Following the 2003 season, USC finished first in the AP poll, while LSU finished first in the coaches' poll. By that same standard, would LSU's national championship be invalidated? I know you're going to bring up the BCS formula, but are you really saying that computer models make a significant difference?
Posted by smooth99
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:55 am to
Chicken was also making the point that the overall win totals would look much different if LSU, in fact, had played in the SWC all those years and Texas had played in the SEC. Overall win totals mean nothing when you played in a 2-3 team conference.
Posted by LSUisjustOK
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:59 am to
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Chicken was also making the point that the overall win totals would look much different if LSU, in fact, had played in the SWC all those years and Texas had played in the SEC.


That's impossible to determine. Texas has a winning record against almost every member of the SEC.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:01 am to
that may be so man - but its still fits into the overall picture - and that picture is that LSU and Texas are closer in overall success than what your origional statement said.
Posted by Roach
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:02 am to
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no - the only "rediculous" talking in this thread - is your inability to admit that LSU and Texas, while not neck and Neck, are a lot closer in terms of overall success than you are saying.


+1000.
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:05 am to
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and that picture is that LSU and Texas are closer in overall success than what your origional statement said


Ok, LSU is closer than Texas than I may have initially let on in some statistical categories. And they are certainly much closer to Texas than Texas A&M could ever dream of being.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:09 am to
well i know next to nothing on A&M - so thats a battle for you gusy to hash out.

Posted by NAsh-vegas Tigah
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:28 am to
At some point the NCAA will rule against the LH-Network as an improper recruiting benefit. In the end I think TX will get hurt by all of this. I am perfectly fine with that happening!
Posted by smooth99
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:34 am to
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That's impossible to determine. Texas has a winning record against almost every member of the SEC.







Ok. But, it is reasonable to expect their winning percentage to be less if they are playing tougher competition. At least, most people would consider that reasonable. I'm not trying to pinpoint, but the numbers (total wins)would be very similar if both teams had the same type of competition throughout their histories.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/2/11 at 11:47 am to
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That's impossible to determine. Texas has a winning record against almost every member of the SEC.

And has been so scared to play SEC teams that it only played one SEC team more than 10 times - LSU (and even then was scared that LSU would tie the series, luckily you got the Cotton Bowl win when LSU's QB had been knocked out for the seaso

Alabama - 9 games, 2 in the last 30 years (1-1)
Arky (legitimate winning record, but who doesn't vs Arky?)
Auburn 8 games, 2-2 in the last 30 years
Florida 3 games (UT hasn't played UF since 1940!)
Georgia 4 games, 1 game in last 30 years, a loss.
Kentucky 1 game, a win in 1951
LSU 15 games, 9-7-1 (One of the few SEC teams played 10+ times, barely a winning %)
Ole Miss 6 games, none since 1966
State 4 games, 2-2 o/a, 1-2 since 1990 (UT doesn't even have a winning record vs STATE!)
South Carolina 1 game, a win in 1957
Tennessee 3 games, none since 1968
Vandy 10 games, UT is 2-7-2 vs the Commodores!

Texas has been notoriously cowardly in scheduling SEC teams over the years. They' rather beat up on Baylor and Rice, etc...

I do see Texas has [played Notre Dame 10 times - and is only 2-8 vs the Irish!

Look at this list and tell me how many in the top 20 Texas plays regularly, racking up that fine o/a win%, and tell me how many LSU has played over the years...

Top teams all-time

And now look at this list and see who Texas has played over the years...

1. A&M (110)
2. OU (102)
3. Baylor (99)
4. Rice (92)
5. TCU (79)
6. Arky (76)
7. SMU (73)
8. TTech (60)
9. Houston (60)
10. Okie Lite (25)
11. SW Texas (22)
12. Colo (18)
13. Missouri (18)

What a freaking Murder's Row.

Texas is SO overblown.
Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:01 pm to
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LSU 15 games, 9-7-1 (One of the few SEC teams played 10+ times, barely a winning %)

Of those 17 games, only six (6), were played in Louisiana. The rest, eleven (11), were played in Texas. LSU has won 5 of the 6 that were played in Louisiana for 83% games won. Now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that if this series was played out 50/50 in each respected state, that LSU would easily lead this series. As it is Texas barely leads the overall series by around 53% with the majority of the games being played in Texas. Texas beats LSU only 17% of the time when the games are played in Louisiana.
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