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re: NYT Takes a Deep Look at Realignment, Fanbase #'s

Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2774 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:15 pm to
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Not really. AU really is as close to the state of GA as you can be and has a strong following in the state. Even if it's a low %, GA has like 8-9 million people. :nb4ButthurtGumps:


I lived in Columbus for 25 years. A city that close to AU, and that City is more of a melting pot than Atlanta is. It's a solid 3 way split between AU/UA/UGA, with a 5-10% split between the regional schools (Florida/Tennessee/GT/FSU etc etc)

But there is alot of nowhere land outside of Columbus. Guess that's where the AU fans congregate.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10349 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:16 pm to
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They extrapolate there are more AU fans than Bama fans. Their methodology is obviously imperfect. (serious.)


Finebaum was just talking about this point about 10 minutes ago.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:40 pm
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:42 pm to
Very interesting. I think they underestimate the following for teams that have many fans in rural areas, but it is cool to see estimates. Their ACC numbers really seem off, with Clemson being the #1 draw and GT #2 and FSU way down at #8 below Virginia.

Even with the shortcomings that is pretty cool and only confirms my feelings that VT and Clemson (along with FSU are good choices) but West Va is not.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37485 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:15 pm to
When you factor in alumni base the results make sense. For instance, Ohio State has the largest living alumni base by a good margin so it stands to reason that they'll carry decent shares in markets far away from Ohio Stadium.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:46 pm to
There is something really wrong with that data. In place of that internet survey, I think he should have gone with national tv ratings controlling for ranking.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:51 pm to
Damn I thought lil ol Weak MISSOURI didn't have that many fans. Wow.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:52 pm to
That implies that WVU would be ~Arkansas in terms of fanbase, which would be fairly low in the SEC.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:52 pm to
Those numbers look highly suspicious.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3803 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:54 pm to
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So if 100% of Louisiana is counted as rabid LSU tiger fans, and only a paltry 20% of Texans are active A&M fans, we've still got you beat by 400,000 fans.


Yeah but I didn't question the numbers as they relate to A&M....I just think in general the numbers are very flawed. If you look closely at them you can see this. The top schools are no brainers. Everyone knows Ohio St and Notre Dame move the needle. But the ACC numbers in particular seem whacky.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11402 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:20 pm to
I find it very hard to believe that Georgia Tech has more fans (1.5 times at that) than UGA. Did I read those charts right?
Posted by SteelersFan
Member since Jan 2011
92 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:24 pm to
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I find it very hard to believe that Georgia Tech has more fans (1.5 times at that) than UGA. Did I read those charts right?


Exactly.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31004 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:26 pm to
yeah and clemson is the most popular team in the ACC. those figures are crap
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6092 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:01 pm to
The analysis they use doesn't work for areas with multiple teams. They are essentially giving the Orlando market to UCF and the Tampa market to USF. This doesn't paint anywhere near the right picture.
Posted by 1836er
Member since Sep 2011
10 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:43 pm to
Here's what I take from this study (relative to A&M and the general landscape of CFB support in Texas), that I think much of the country (amongst CFB fans) doesn't really realize.

While tu is obviously the #1 name brand/supported team in Texas, A&M is a very, very close 2nd (much closer than most people outside Texas realize) throughout nearly the entirety of the State... with Tech coming in a very distant 3rd. Just throwing out ballpark figures... the Aggies right now probably deliver 35% of the TVs in Texas, which, given the size of our State, makes us very attractive to the SEC for the next round of TV negotiations.

Furthermore, one has to realize that our level of support (overall and relative to tu) exists in spite of the fact that our team on the gridiron has been mediocre most of the last decade and tu has been making runs at MNCs.

Therefore, here is why I think our move to the SEC somewhat concerns tu when it comes to their current brand name/media/merchandising/recruiting advantages over us. tu has it, right now, about as good as they'll ever have it over us. Right now they've got the maximum amount of media coverage and casual (t-shirt fan) support over us as they're likely ever to get... and their current advantages over us still aren't all THAT great.

However, IF we become a major player in SEC football in terms of results on the gridiron and IF our move to the SEC noticeably improves our regional/national visibility and prestige like we Aggies hope (and many of us think) it will, the real potential exists for A&M to pretty much wipe out that gap.

I'm not saying things will work out this way, but our move to the SEC makes it possible (which probably would never be the case as long as we remained in their conference).
Posted by Piranha
Destin
Member since Sep 2010
28 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 7:48 pm to
The NYT did not use Neilson ratings by DMA for TV. The information is worthless. Crossover DMA's are huge for regional games. Mobile - Pensacola DMA , I think is the 90th laggest TV market and they do well for Alabama, Auburn, FL, Auburn and LSU viewers. Follow the advertising money not the population
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