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re: Mizzou presser over, Deaton granted full authority
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:07 pm to texasaggie08
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:07 pm to texasaggie08
quote:
The host and callers on this show are a bunch of pussies.
VERY Big 12 if you ask me.
Are they pussies for being pro-traditional rivalries or for successfully convincing the Big 12 to share revenue???
Or are they pussies b/c they don't want to join the SEC just to be thought of as second class conference members from here on out...like Arkie, USC and now TAMU??
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 6:08 pm
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:08 pm to luke2003
Better than being 3rd class, like State, OM and Vandy.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:09 pm to Dr RC
Presser is being delayed because Deaton is on the phone with Slive finalizing things. 
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:10 pm to Dr RC
Here's 3rd tier rights by school for the 2009-10 school year (before Longhorn Network).
I was suprised to see North Carolina and Kansas make so much but I guess basketball pays better than you'd think...
LINK
SEC
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University of Alabama $8,444,674.00
University of Kentucky $7,743,327.00
University of Florida $7,450,000.00
Louisiana State University $7,012,730.00
University of Tennessee $6,293,621.00
University of Georgia $6,231,392.00
Auburn University
$4,637,605.00
University of South Carolina $1,829,000.00
University of Mississippi $1,658,650.00
University of Arkansas $950,000.00
Mississippi State University $0.00
Vanderbilt University ??? (can't do public records request)
Big XII
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University of Kansas $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University $2,608,896.00
University of Texas $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma $317,361.00
University of Colorado $155,528.00
Texas Tech University
$0.00
Texas A&M University $0.00
Baylor ???? (can't do public records request)
ACC
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University of North Carolina $11,171,458.00
Virginia Tech $3,769,583.00
North Carolina State University $2,470,750.00
Georgia Tech $1,254,876.00
Clemson University $920,000.00
Florida State University $349,869.00
University of Virginia $0.00
Duke University N/A
University of Maryland N/A
Wake Forest University N/A
University of Miami N/A
Boston College N/A
I was suprised to see North Carolina and Kansas make so much but I guess basketball pays better than you'd think...
LINK
SEC
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University of Alabama $8,444,674.00
University of Kentucky $7,743,327.00
University of Florida $7,450,000.00
Louisiana State University $7,012,730.00
University of Tennessee $6,293,621.00
University of Georgia $6,231,392.00
Auburn University
$4,637,605.00
University of South Carolina $1,829,000.00
University of Mississippi $1,658,650.00
University of Arkansas $950,000.00
Mississippi State University $0.00
Vanderbilt University ??? (can't do public records request)
Big XII
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University of Kansas $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University $2,608,896.00
University of Texas $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma $317,361.00
University of Colorado $155,528.00
Texas Tech University
$0.00
Texas A&M University $0.00
Baylor ???? (can't do public records request)
ACC
---
University of North Carolina $11,171,458.00
Virginia Tech $3,769,583.00
North Carolina State University $2,470,750.00
Georgia Tech $1,254,876.00
Clemson University $920,000.00
Florida State University $349,869.00
University of Virginia $0.00
Duke University N/A
University of Maryland N/A
Wake Forest University N/A
University of Miami N/A
Boston College N/A
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:14 pm to e2drummer
quote:
The University of Florida and Fox's Sun Sports have signed a media rights deal that is not only one of the most lucrative in the country, but also could end the likelihood of an SEC channel being created any time soon.
The deal will pay Florida's marketing arm, the University Athletic Association, roughly $10 million a year for the next 10 years. Florida, one of the Southeastern Conference's most marketable schools, was one of the few major colleges that handled many of its marketing and media rights in-house.
The deal also could be a sign that an SEC channel -- modeled after the Big Ten Network -- is not in the offing, industry analysts speculated. While the deal itself would not preclude the SEC from creating a channel, its timing, just weeks before the conference picks its new TV partners, suggests that such a channel is unlikely.
LINK
So not quite the Longhorn Network, but still a pretty sweet deal for Florida without much blowback from their SEC brethren.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:14 pm to e2drummer
A school will want to keep their third tier rights just because individually the top schools rights are going to be worth much much more than the individual payout of a conference network.
Just as an example the B1GN payout was around $8M... The LHN $15M.. Do you think UF or Bama would want to take less knowing that schools elsewhere are getting full value for their T3 rights?
Just as an example the B1GN payout was around $8M... The LHN $15M.. Do you think UF or Bama would want to take less knowing that schools elsewhere are getting full value for their T3 rights?
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:18 pm to BrerTiger
quote:
So not quite the Longhorn Network, but still a pretty sweet deal for Florida without much blowback from their SEC brethren.
Exactly. Does anyone really think that ESPN was going to stop with the LHN? We were just the first and they hope for dozens more in coming years.
The LHN has been a red herring in this whole thing. If anything, the unequal revenue split for the Tier 1 & 2 rights was the real sore spot.
The A&M inferiority complex has reached unmatched heights in recent years and they left to get out from under our shadow plain and simple.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:23 pm to luke2003
quote:
The A&M inferiority complex has reached unmatched heights in recent years and they left to get out from under our shadow plain and simple.
Um... story I heard was the Aggies tried to bolt for the SEC in the early 90s before Texas politicians held them hostage and forced them into Big XII.
So is it the Aggies have an inferiority complex or is the Aggies were held hostage and not allowed to leave SWC or Big XII?
quote:
Texas A&M: well look. A&M tried to join the SEC in 1990 (around the same time that Arkansas did) and the Longhorns blocked it.
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:24 pm to luke2003
luke2003, since when has a longhorn fan been concerned about traditional rivalries? You and your Austin mobsters have desroyed the Big 12. Rivalries be damned, we want all of the money!
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:30 pm to eman65
its not all the longhorns fault. All the other big 12 schools let Texas have all this power and I don't fault Texas trying to get as much money as possible.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:30 pm to laxtonto
quote:
A school will want to keep their third tier rights just because individually the top schools rights are going to be worth much much more than the individual payout of a conference network.
Just as an example the B1GN payout was around $8M... The LHN $15M.. Do you think UF or Bama would want to take less knowing that schools elsewhere are getting full value for their T3 rights?
The thing is, a conference network may actually make those schools more than they would make just selling the rights. The Big 10 schools made $8M per this past season, but that was an increase over the previous year and some projections have the network making $333M in 2015. That's $27.75M per school. Having all the schools team together to make a network means better content, which means more viewers, which means more money.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:32 pm to luke2003
GFY horn.
You know and I know that A&M has said everything they can indicating that they don't want to "abandon" your precious rivalry. UF-FSU....UGA-GT...Clemson-USC....just stop with that shite. You played OU OOC every year until 1996. Are you any more or less rivals now then you were then?
And to clarify, we don't give a shite about Baylor and Tech. We'll feel no remorse for not playing them anymore. The horse was out of the barn when the SWC broke up, so don't use the Big 12/Ken Starr talking points about in-state rivalries being lost.
A&M's played LSU 50 times, and played Arkansas every season until 1991. We get both of those back now. Don't compare those to fricking Lubbock and Waco.
If little brother is going to get their arse kicked in the SEC, then you should sit back and be happy....surely it will kill our recruiting and help yours, right?
You know and I know that A&M has said everything they can indicating that they don't want to "abandon" your precious rivalry. UF-FSU....UGA-GT...Clemson-USC....just stop with that shite. You played OU OOC every year until 1996. Are you any more or less rivals now then you were then?
And to clarify, we don't give a shite about Baylor and Tech. We'll feel no remorse for not playing them anymore. The horse was out of the barn when the SWC broke up, so don't use the Big 12/Ken Starr talking points about in-state rivalries being lost.
A&M's played LSU 50 times, and played Arkansas every season until 1991. We get both of those back now. Don't compare those to fricking Lubbock and Waco.
If little brother is going to get their arse kicked in the SEC, then you should sit back and be happy....surely it will kill our recruiting and help yours, right?
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:32 pm to e2drummer
quote:
The thing is, a conference network may actually make those schools more than they would make just selling the rights. The Big 10 schools made $8M per this past season, but that was an increase over the previous year and some projections have the network making $333M in 2015. That's $27.75M per school. Having all the schools team together to make a network means better content, which means more viewers, which means more money.
Hindsight being what is, the Big Ten took a gamble and it paid off big time.
Deep down, I think Slive is kicking himself for not following suit. A real SEC Network would be huge.
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:33 pm to texasaggie08
quote:
GFY horn.
shite just got real.
Now when is this press conference gonna start?
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:34 pm to BrerTiger
quote:
Hindsight being what is, the Big Ten made a gamble and it paid off big time.
Deep down, I think Slive is kicking himself for not following suit. A real SEC Network would be huge.
Correct.
Big Ten per team $22.3M with only 11 teams last year and no championship game.
SEC per team $18.3M with 12 teams and a championship game.
B1G is about to rack in big time when this years numbers come out in 2012.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:35 pm to texasaggie08
texasaggie08, 
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:35 pm to texasaggie08
I'm curious to see the change in atmosphere at A&M with more teams with ravenous fanbases coming to town.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:37 pm to e2drummer
quote:
The thing is, a conference network may actually make those schools more than they would make just selling the rights. The Big 10 schools made $8M per this past season, but that was an increase over the previous year and some projections have the network making $333M in 2015. That's $27.75M per school. Having all the schools team together to make a network means better content, which means more viewers, which means more money.
You do realize that the LHN is potentially worth well over a Billion in the 30 year span? The 15M is the floor.. The same guys that predict the B10N to be worth X are the same guys saying the LHN will be worth Y.
The real question is what pace will hey grow at and will the overall valuation of the B1G stay at the same growth curve even though they have passed out of the classic high growth stage.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:39 pm to BrerTiger
Another point: Because the conference network is run by the conference itself, there are no TV contracts with locked-in monetary values to deal with. While most TV contracts become outdated quickly when another school/conference signs a contract for more money (see the SEC vs PAC12 contracts), that doesn't happen with a conference network. What the network makes every year is evenly distributed between the schools.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 6:46 pm to luke2003
What a surprise a whiney texas fan
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 6:52 pm
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