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re: Maybe OU will join in the fun...

Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:53 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:53 am to
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I really, really want the SEC to offer OkState, too, if that is what is needed to get OU and A&M. Texas and the PAC-* would be up Poopie Creek at that point.


They'd still be willing to take Texas in order to make it a 12-team league, but it severely damages their plans to make a 16-team super-conference.

That works out for the Pac Ten but it means a bunch of problems for Texas because the closest three schools in that situation would be Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State, all of which are pretty far from Austin.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:08 am to
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LSU is not NEARLY the national audience as Alabama, Florida and UGA.


FALSE
Posted by Oklahoma Sooners
Tulsa, OK
Member since Oct 2007
318 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:21 am to
Texas doesn't need the OU game? I completely agree.

Maybe you will win more than two conference titles (as opposed to OU's six) per decade in the Pac 16.

So, yeah, it is in Texas' best interest to get back into a conference without Oklahoma.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:30 am to
Why couldn't OU join the SEC and have a similar rivalry with TAMU at a neutral site such as the new Cowboys stadium? TAMU would get a boost and Oklahoma would maintain their presence in TX. I bet Oklahoma would love revenge on LSU for the 2003 championship and Nick Saban at Bama.
Posted by Oklahoma Sooners
Tulsa, OK
Member since Oct 2007
318 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:45 am to
Because we already beat the living shite out of Texas A&M on an annual basis right now.

Texas, on the other hand, is good enough to beat us.

Ya. I'd love to take the SEC "grand tour" and go to the first OU away game in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Athens, Knoxville, and Florida.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 1:46 am
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5628 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:56 am to
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LSU is not NEARLY the national audience as Alabama, Florida and UGA.
Living in Georgia, I have to disagree with this. Although Georgia is the dominant school in this state, they are not followed nationally. There is Georgia Tech in Atlanta, and there are a TON of Auburn and Tennessee fans here as well. I see lots of Florida and LSU representation as well, just not as much as Auburn and Tennessee. LSU dominates Louisiana, Georgia doesn't come nearly as close in Georgia. And I don't know a person outside of Alabama, who's not originally from Alabama, that likes Alabama enough to follow them. They're still seen as rednecks with a good football program and that's about it.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:01 am to
Living in Georgia, I have to disagree with this. Although Georgia is the dominant school in this state, they are not followed nationally. There is Georgia Tech in Atlanta, and there are a TON of Auburn and Tennessee fans here as well. I see
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lots of Florida and LSU representation as well, just not as much as Auburn and Tennessee. LSU dominates Louisiana, Georgia doesn't come nearly as close in Georgia. And I don't know a person outside of Alabama, who's not originally from Alabama, that likes Alabama enough to follow them. They're still seen as rednecks with a good football program and that's about it.


False. Alabama is one of about ten progrms that have the highest national following (not in terms of fans- in terms of people that watxh them becuase they are a traditional power). And no shite LSU dominates Louisiana- who do they compete with? Tulane and La Tech? The fact is, Alabama is the most nationally recognized name in the SEC along with (recently) Florida and Tennessee when they're better.
Posted by Oklahoma Sooners
Tulsa, OK
Member since Oct 2007
318 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:07 am to
SEC "names" are as follows:

Florida, Alabama, LSU.

Georgia and Tennessee are not "names" because they haven't done anything. Georgia won the conference, what, like once recently? They don't even win their division that often, either. Tennessee was a "name" during the Clinton administration.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 2:10 am
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:57 am to
UGA and TENN may be down, but they still have big followings. Don't be fooled. ...And they will get back up sooner or later.
Posted by VOL61
VA
Member since Dec 2008
490 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 7:03 am to
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SEC "names" are as follows:

Florida, Alabama, LSU.

Georgia and Tennessee are not "names" because they haven't done anything. Georgia won the conference, what, like once recently? They don't even win their division that often, either. Tennessee was a "name" during the Clinton administration.


Sir, If you think UGA and Tennessee are not "names". You are going to be in for a rude awakening if by some chance you end up in this conference.

You need to take a look at the history of college football then tell me UGA and Tennessee are not "names".
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 7:49 am to
I've lived Japan the past 2 years and noticed some LSU apparel worn but nothing with Bama or UF yet. It's only a small sample but I'm just saying. LSU is a bigger name outside of the SEC than u think.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77165 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 8:03 am to
LSU is a much bigger name outside the SEC than the Vols are now. Primarily due to success in football over the last 10 years and the success of the baseball program bringing visibility. I live in Knoxville and the Vol fans have an inflated sense of their importance at this time primarily due to the basketball program's rise under Pearl. I will give you Bama and Florida but Bama only got relevant again last year and I can guarantee you there are many people from age 10 to 25 who don't even know who Bear Bryant is or that Bama has won 100 national championships. Bama fans live in a bubble world in Alabama just like the UT fans up here. Georgia? What the hell have they done that is relevant in the last 20 years? Women's gymnastics?
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 8:48 am to
UGA's biggest news of the decade was David Greene's hype winning a NC at Georgia and the Dogs running on the field against Florida.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 8:50 am
Posted by Oklahoma Sooners
Tulsa, OK
Member since Oct 2007
318 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 11:48 am to
When I think of college football, Tennessee does not come to mind. Sorry. You have one recent national title and a gigantic stadium.

When I think Tennessee and Georgia, I think of dogs, hedges, Tennessee's random national title without Peyton, and Herschel Walker.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 11:52 am
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12099 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 11:52 am to
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When I think of college football, Tennessee does not come to mind. Sorry. You have one recent national title and a gigantic stadium.

When I think Tennessee and Georgia, I think of dogs and Herschel Walker.

That's ok, when SEC fans think of OU, we think of Sucrets.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 4:53 pm to
LSU is a much bigger name outside the SEC than the Vols are now. Primarily due to success in football over the last 10 years and the success of the baseball program bringing visibility. I live in Knoxville and the Vol fans have an inflated sense of their importance at this time primarily due to the basketball program's rise under Pearl. I will give you Bama and Florida
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but Bama only got relevant again last year and I can guarantee you there are many people from age 10 to 25 who don't even know who Bear Bryant is or that Bama has won 100 national championships. Bama fans live in a bubble world in Alabama just like the UT fans up here. Georgia? What the hell have they done that is relevant in the last 20 years? Women's gymnastics?


You sir, are an idiot. Alabama is a Name know by every generation of college football fans (undefeated seasons in SEVEN different decades and no longer than 17 years between national chapionhips in the poll era (that second only to Oklahoma) Alabama also has the most poll championships
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 4:56 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37127 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 4:55 pm to
even people who follow college football pretty closely often don't know very much about historical success

I'd wager a sizable number of people would incorrectly guess Texas had a historically better program than OU - maybe even over 50%
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
Member since Feb 2010
12688 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 5:31 pm to
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I just don't see UNC and Duke joining SEC. Way out of SEC's league academically.
Could someone please explain to me what academics has ANYTHING to do with this
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 5:32 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 5:35 pm to
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It's not. The game is big for Texas, but Texas doesn't need it. Without that game Oklahoma recruiting takes a HUGE hit. Oklahoma needs Texas, Texas doesn't need Oklahoma.


I completely disagree. Texas in the Pac 10 without the RRS would be terrible for the university. A move to the Big 10 would make a lot more sense, not logistically, but in regard to keeping people caring. Frankly, Texas is always going to be good but honestly, I could care less about Texas playing Arizona and UCLA. I would actually care if Texas was playing Penn St or Michigan.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 5:36 pm to
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Could someone please explain to me what academics has ANYTHING to do with this


Yeah I don't understand it either. People keep bringing it up but never with a logical argument. The problem with those two schools isn't academics, it's that they are a package deal.
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