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re: Longhorns have GOT to be asking themselves....
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:59 pm to hoginthesw
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:59 pm to hoginthesw
People say it is about the money, but it isn't. It is about dominance of Texas and by Texas pure and simple.
If it were about money, Texas could drop the LHN and join the Pac 12. The Pac 12 could then form a Pac 12 network and with the subscription fees that could be charged in all those Pac 12 states, every school in the Pac 12 would soon be making FAR more than the 15 million Texas is going to get on Tier III rights.
If it were about money, Texas could drop the LHN and join the Pac 12. The Pac 12 could then form a Pac 12 network and with the subscription fees that could be charged in all those Pac 12 states, every school in the Pac 12 would soon be making FAR more than the 15 million Texas is going to get on Tier III rights.
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:02 pm to relapse98
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I don't even play a lawyer on the internet, but 14c.
My reading of that is that if, for some reason (that I can't think of right now), Texas cannot provide the sports content (i.e., the actual home athletic contests for football, basketball, and "other sports") to ESPN for production, then ESPN can terminate the contract. Again, I'm not sure when UT wouldn't be able to provide those contests unless it decided to forego all athletics. That content will always be providable to ESPN by UT - thereby giving ESPN no grounds to terminate under this clause.
I could be wrong....I play a lawyer in real life but not a licensing/contract one.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:05 pm to Hawgon
It goes way beyond that and thats what drove A&Ms admins to unite to leave the second time. And no, the Pac can't match the payout the LHN does but thats not the best part. The best part is having the largest sporting news group blowing you every single step of the way. There is an article on ESPN about how TCU is a good trade for A&M. Seriously.
Anyone who thinks Texas would be a good add to the SEC has never dealt with Texas fans in mass. Larry Scott has straight up had enough of them and he was willing to stand on his head to bring them in. You think Bama is arrogant? They are that much worse.
Anyone who thinks Texas would be a good add to the SEC has never dealt with Texas fans in mass. Larry Scott has straight up had enough of them and he was willing to stand on his head to bring them in. You think Bama is arrogant? They are that much worse.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:06 pm to LegacyAggie
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Anyone who thinks Texas would be a good add to the SEC has never dealt with Texas fans in mass
All fan bases are comprised of assholes except LSU.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:07 pm to LegacyAggie
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There is an article on ESPN about how TCU is a good trade for A&M.
no fricking way. 
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Anyone who thinks Texas would be a good add to the SEC has never dealt with Texas fans in mass.
THIS. fricking A, this.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:09 pm to hoginthesw
hogsinthesw...yes way.
Second line.
"The potential addition of TCU on the heels of Texas A&M’s departure could actually be argued as an upgrade."
Check it out..
LINK
Second line.
"The potential addition of TCU on the heels of Texas A&M’s departure could actually be argued as an upgrade."
Check it out..
LINK
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:11 pm to LegacyAggie
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Anyone who thinks Texas would be a good add to the SEC has never dealt with Texas fans in mass.
Didn't realize that Texas fans were overwhelmingly Catholic
Psst.. it's "en masse."
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:13 pm to texashorn
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:14 pm to hoginthesw
By the way, how did Texas ruin the Southwest Conference? I'd like to read your take on that.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:19 pm to texashorn
I'm so not wasting my time with you.
Your arrogance will be your undoing.
Your arrogance will be your undoing.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:20 pm to LegacyAggie
You will notice that my reply was not directed toward you, but thanks for (not) playing.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:22 pm to LegacyAggie
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The best part is having the largest sporting news group blowing you every single step of the way.
Wow! So "no fair" and "bad Texas" because we were able to sign a deal with a big media outlet vice a smaller one for our tier 3 rights?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:26 pm to ATX Horn
No, power to you. Be careful what you wish for. You really think the conference is about to lose 4 teams, OU/Ok St tried to bail, and it has nothing to do with you? This is entirely your doing. Im glad we made it out. What goes up must come down. Id be very careful to see that you dont come down to a place you cant rise from. As I said, your arrogance will be your undoing.
And if you dont believe in the media bias, read that TCU article I posted.
And if you dont believe in the media bias, read that TCU article I posted.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:37 pm to LegacyAggie
When's Dr. Bowtie going to throw a fit and ask Florida to share that $10 million per year they get in Tier 3 rights with the rest of the conference?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:46 pm to texashorn
When are you going to stop posting stupid shite? The answer to both is the same. Never.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 4:00 pm to texashorn
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When's Dr. Bowtie going to throw a fit and ask Florida to share that $10 million per year they get in Tier 3 rights with the rest of the conference?
In the same topic but perhaps along a more serious line...
What is the consensus of SEC fans here (to the extent that there is one) about what the "SEC Tier 3 Rich" schools (like FLA) in the SEC will do if a SEC Network is started and the conference expects them to equally share their Tier 3 revenue with the conference or perhaps cede Tier 3 rights to the conference.....and the shared payout is less than they get now? Do they:
1. Willingly go along for sake of conference harmony?
2. Try to negotiate an unequal revenue sharing for only Tier 3 rights?
3. Tell the conference
I'm curious to see how this will play out.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 4:05 pm to OrangeBlood
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I'm curious to see how this will play out.
Well they're not like Texas so they will do what's best for the conference even if their school gets a little less money. Not everyone is so concerned about revenue as you douchebags.
jk
Posted on 10/6/11 at 4:11 pm to TK421
We'll see - but I think you are right. I think, at the end of the day, the schools will agree to equal rev for Tier 3 even if, internally, they hate it. Mainly for solidarity - which I think the SEC has done a pretty good job of doing.
I guess Texas got concerned with revenue when we looked up and saw Kansas getting almost 10mil a year for Tier 3 rights while we got 300k....I mean come on...Kansas???!!??
Kidding, but getting paid for basketball Tier 3 rights has always been lucrative for schools like Kansas.
I guess Texas got concerned with revenue when we looked up and saw Kansas getting almost 10mil a year for Tier 3 rights while we got 300k....I mean come on...Kansas???!!??
Kidding, but getting paid for basketball Tier 3 rights has always been lucrative for schools like Kansas.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 4:42 pm to OrangeBlood
The SEC will agree to equal revenue sharing on Tier 3 rights because it will allow the conference to follow the Big 10 model and start an SEC network and in time, EVERY SCHOOL in the SEC will make FAR more than ten or fifteen million a year off of Tier 3 rights alone.
And yes, if Texas gave up the LHN and joined the Pac 12, they could do the same sort of thing there. But because Texas has the LHN and refuses to give it up, or can't give it up, then no conference which has Texas as a member can ever follow the Big 10 model of creating a conference network and getting absolutely filthy rich.
Creating the conference network and adding states with lots of televisions so that the SEC can charge higher subscription rates in those states where there are SEC members is what this WHOLE thing is about.
And yes, if Texas gave up the LHN and joined the Pac 12, they could do the same sort of thing there. But because Texas has the LHN and refuses to give it up, or can't give it up, then no conference which has Texas as a member can ever follow the Big 10 model of creating a conference network and getting absolutely filthy rich.
Creating the conference network and adding states with lots of televisions so that the SEC can charge higher subscription rates in those states where there are SEC members is what this WHOLE thing is about.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:00 pm to Hawgon
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then no conference which has Texas as a member can ever follow the Big 10 model of creating a conference network and getting absolutely filthy rich
I disagree that it "can never" happen - we're talking about contracts and disbursements that can be modified, changed etc. Take the scenario, Texas goes to Big 10 but agrees to partake of none of the B10 Network money in exchange for keeping the LHN and its revenue, even though the share of the Big 10 Network revenue may be greater than what Texas gets for the LHN. The two networks are sold as a package - conference games in Austin that the conference determines are not Tier 1 are shown on the LHN while conference games involving UT that are away from Austin that the conference determines are not Tier 1 are shown on the B10 Network.
It could work...will it ever happen? Not sure but it's less unlikely than many people think. I for one think the branding of the LHN is more important to the administration than the direct revenue generated by it under the contract with ESPN.
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