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re: How does expansion help the SEC?
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:03 am to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:03 am to Vegas Bengal
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the projected revenue would be greater than the SEC.
TV revenue. Overall revenue still wont be close other than with OU and UT
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And while the SEC is strong now, a big 16 would command the attention of sportswriters and the tv market and the SEC would no longer be the big dog. We would no longer be the conference that pulls the most weight in football. We would be the little sister of the Big 16.
The SEC will continue to be the most competative conference because of the talent base. A Pac-16 wouldn't change that
The SEC's comparative advantage has never been market size. It will always be the depth of the conference
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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OMG ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN TV MONEY? WE'RE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
Not thinking very much today are you?
The SEC now commands that money... but with a Big 16 and a Big 10 expansion, the SEC will no longer be able to command the top contract in football. We're talking future. TV contracts do not stay the same.
Who wants to put that kind of money up with you have two other conferences with greater market share?
You're not thinking very clearly today.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:03 am to Vegas Bengal
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the projected revenue would be greater than the SEC.
by ONE MILLION DOLLARS, per that article
tv revenue is 1/3 of big schools' revenue
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:04 am to usc6158
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The SEC's comparative advantage has never been market size. It will always be the depth of the conference
and the local support which is only rivaled by the big10. the Southeast loves CFB and we support it. the midwest does also, as well as the state of TX and OK
nobody is doubting that UT will make an insane amount of money...OU also likely and USC possibly
but that's it
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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by ONE MILLION DOLLARS, per that article
tv revenue is 1/3 of big schools' revenue
Once again... you're not thinking... if the SEC expands into Texas, our TV market share increases by 1/3. If our tv contract increases that much, even sharing with 2 other schools increases our revenue greater than 1/3 (possibly 3/5 )of a school's revenue.
It's really basic math we're talking here.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:05 am to Vegas Bengal
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The SEC now commands that money... but with a Big 16 and a Big 10 expansion, the SEC will no longer be able to command the top contract in football.
well we only have 14 fricking years to make a plan for something else when we won't command that top dollar
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TV contracts do not stay the same
we signed a FIFTEEN year deal like a year ago
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Who wants to put that kind of money up with you have two other conferences with greater market share?
big markets who don't give a frick about CFB (outside of TX)
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:06 am to Vegas Bengal
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if the SEC expands into Texas, our TV market share increases by 1/3.
so we get TAMU and our TV market increases by 1/3?
i know TAMU is a big school, but GOD DAMN
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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and the local support which is only rivaled by the big10. the Southeast loves CFB and we support it. the midwest does also, as well as the state of TX and OK
But even then the SEC doesnt have the pure numbers to make the money they are off of local support. They've been able to grow like they have nationally because of the overall quality of play
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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we signed a FIFTEEN year deal like a year ago
Expansion means new contract. You add 3 of the top 10 tv markets in the country and you can't keep the same contract.
There is no way we signed a contract which allows TV to profit and expand it's viewership without paying more money. I haven't read the contract of course but it would seem the SEC, considering past expansions, would be smart enough to do this.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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so we get TAMU and our TV market increases by 1/3?
i know TAMU is a big school, but GOD DAMN
Two schools... Texas and TAMU.
Try to keep up.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:09 am to Vegas Bengal
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Expansion means new contract.
argh
you just changed your argument
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:09 am to Vegas Bengal
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Two schools... Texas and TAMU.
we're not getting Texas unless a miracle happens
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
And by the way, TAMU sits within the TV markets of Houston 2.2 million, Austin 750,000, San Antonio 1.3 million. Those 3 cities are bigger than Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana.
You don't even have to consider Dallas.
You don't even have to consider Dallas.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:12 am to Vegas Bengal
It would be a shock if Texas went to a conference that has equal revenue sharing. That makes very little sense for them
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:13 am to Vegas Bengal
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And by the way, TAMU sits within the TV markets of Houston 2.2 million, Austin 750,000, San Antonio 1.3 million. Those 3 cities are bigger than Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana.
how many non-aggies are going to tune into TAMU football?
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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argh
you just changed your argument
No I didn't.
And as for Texas not coming... I say the Aggies will convince them. It's all about money.
Last year Texas got $10 million from the big12. Only if everyone goes to the Big16 can they get get $18 million. But coming to the SEC, our payout of $17 million with a significantly greater tv market share and new contract will be greater than even that.
We will stay as the premier conference in the nation. Easily.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:16 am to Vegas Bengal
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No I didn't.
yes you did
this is what you said
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The SEC now commands that money... but with a Big 16 and a Big 10 expansion, the SEC will no longer be able to command the top contract in football.
the SEC has a 15 year deal to ensure that there will be no change
you then said that we'd re-work a deal if we got TAMU, which is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
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I say the Aggies will convince them
the frick? UT runs shite, not TAMU
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It's all about money.
they'll get more in the pac10 or big10
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Only if everyone goes to the Big16 can they get get $18 million
then they can get $22M from the big10
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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how many non-aggies are going to tune into TAMU football?
A lot. UT fans watch Aggie football. for different reasons.
But this is irrelevant b/c one will not go without the other.
And I say aggies will win the tug of war b/c of $.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:18 am to Vegas Bengal
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And I say aggies will win the tug of war b/c of $.
you honestly have no idea what you're talking about
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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LA, SF, Phoenix, Seattle, and Sactown don't give a flying frick about CFB for the most part, so who cares?
the SEC has shown that local support is the most important aspect of funding a program
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why is the SEC not an afterthought with the media markets and media influence of the big10 RIGHT NOW?
they have a ton of big cities, a ton of population, and the major national media is flooded with big10 grads
You make a lot of good points for sure. I agree with all of this. But it doesn't mean we SHOULDN'T expand. It just means that IF we need to, we should do it carefully.
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