- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: How and why did the SEC select Arkansas and S. Carolina?
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:16 am to Rockerbraves
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:16 am to Rockerbraves
I think our fanbase has done well all things considered.
It is weird to think that nobody has really done what we did.
We just dropped rivalries that we had been playing for 76 years. Dead. Period.
I guess Nebraska is the next to do that, by going it apparently alone into a new conference.
Carolina was independent so they didn't even do what we did.
I wasn't really very invested as an Arkansas Razorback fan in 1991 (being 14) so I didn't really understand it back then.
One of the reasons I want A&M is because to this day, there's a part of us that still identifies stronger with them than everybody in the SEC.
It is weird to think that nobody has really done what we did.
We just dropped rivalries that we had been playing for 76 years. Dead. Period.
I guess Nebraska is the next to do that, by going it apparently alone into a new conference.
Carolina was independent so they didn't even do what we did.
I wasn't really very invested as an Arkansas Razorback fan in 1991 (being 14) so I didn't really understand it back then.
One of the reasons I want A&M is because to this day, there's a part of us that still identifies stronger with them than everybody in the SEC.
0
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:22 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
In the 1900's Florida dominated the SEC.
For the entire century?
They were great in the 90's, but most of that was after the invitation.
The "also ran" part was a bit of a paraphrase. I think his actual quote was something along the lines of being very familiar with the SEC and not wanting to get involved in that type of competition. As I said, I think he made the right decision for his program. No way would they have become the national power they were in the '90's if they had joined the SEC.
Regarding his record against the SEC, it is much easier to get up for tough games once or twice a year than to have a schedule full of them. For most of the '90's, if FSU beat Florida, they were in line for a title shot.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 12:13 pm to BhamTigah
quote:
For the entire century?
Doh! quote:
No way would they have become the national power they were in the '90's if they had joined the SEC.
Why? Florida was, Tennessee was, did those teams have superior talent to FSU? Hardly.
quote:
it is much easier to get up for tough games once or twice a year than to have a schedule full of them
This standard SEC cliche is so silly. You do not play a team's history, you play them in a specific year. Sometimes Bama is 14-0, others they are 7-6 or 4-9. Go look at the SEC in the 90's. Florida was good, so was Tennessee, Bama sometimes, that's about it. From 90-94, 98-99 it wasn't that tough to come to Tiger Stadium.
FSU played Florida and Miami every year, i addition to that they routinely played Big time teams often on the road: Notre Dame, Michigan for example. Plus they played other SEC teams besides UF (LSU, Auburn) In the end with UF, UM and say ND FSU was playing more powerhouse teams than the top teams in the SEC if you think about it.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 12:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Go look at the SEC in the 90's. Florida was good, so was Tennessee, Bama sometimes, that's about it
Yeah, but who else in the ACC was worth a crap?
I'm not arguing with you. This wasn't my take on things, it was Bobby Bowden's. I don't have any links or anything, but it is pretty widely accepted.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 12:27 pm to BhamTigah
Actually I did find a LINK.
Of course, this writer may not be any more reliable than me.
Of course, this writer may not be any more reliable than me.
quote:
"I'm like George Foreman," Bowden said then. "I like to pick those unranked guys out and fight 'em. Ol' George is out there knocking out these no-names, but he'll be fighting for the heavyweight championship directly.
"Everybody just assumed ol' Bobby was raised in the heart of the SEC, so naturally he's going to want to jump right in. Maybe I know too much about the SEC to want to join up."
Posted on 6/11/10 at 1:03 pm to BhamTigah
quote:
Yeah, but who else in the ACC was worth a crap?
No one (well UNC for a couple of years in the mid-late 90's), they won 70 of their first 72 ACC games or something stupid like that
of course they couldn't do that in the SEC. I think its the top of your schedule that matters most. (the old 5 10-1 and 5 1-10 teams is better than 10 5-5 teams). And to me it doesn't matter if the better teams you play are in conference or not, its how many you play. By playing Florida, Miami and ND or Michigan, FSU was playing just as many or more elite teams at the time as Florida.
I
quote:
'm not arguing with you. This wasn't my take on things,
I know I was just saying I think that the view FSU could not have been a powerhouse in the SEC is wrong, no matter who said it. That doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing for FSU to join the ACC at the time.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News