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re: Academic Rankings Comparison for Conferences

Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:33 pm to
Once again with this academic argument that I do not understand. Is Texas going to get more money for research by being in the Pac-10? They are in the Big 12 right now, which isn't that strong academically, and Texas seems to be doing alright. I truly don't get this academics argument and wish that someone would explain it to me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:35 pm to
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Is Texas going to get more money for research by being in the Pac-10?

they would in the big10 for sure

and they'd prolly get more tv money also

the pac10 gives them power
Posted by Quigley
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:38 pm to
Here's where US News ranked the SEC

College Name and Location U.S. News Rank Team Nickname
1 Vanderbilt UniversityNashville, TN 17 Commodores
2 University of FloridaGainesville, FL 47 Gators
3 University of GeorgiaAthens, GA 58 Bulldogs
4 Auburn UniversityAuburn University, AL 88 Tigers
5 University of AlabamaTuscaloosa, AL 96 Crimson Tide
6 University of TennesseeKnoxville, TN 106 Volunteers
7 University of South CarolinaColumbia, SC 110 Gamecocks
8 Louisiana State University–Baton RougeBaton Rouge, LA 128 Tigers
9 University of ArkansasFayetteville, AR 128 Razorbacks
10 University of KentuckyLexington, KY 128 Wildcats
11 Mississippi State UniversityMississippi State, MS Tier 3 Bulldogs
12 University of MississippiUniversity, MS Tier 3 Rebels

LINK
Posted by Bob Sacamano
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:39 pm to
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Academic Rankings of World Universities (ARWU)


Posted by Quigley
Down Under
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:40 pm to
This US News link allows you to look at rankings for all the BCS schools by conference and also includes Conference USA.

LINK

Selection for conferences is at menu halfway down page.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:41 pm to
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Without knowing the ranking system (might explain some rankings) that's a terrible list, FWIW.


+1
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1664 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:44 pm to
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they would in the big10 for sure


If the Big 10 is splitting up research dollars, wouldn't Texas only get more revenue assuming that they bring in less than the average Big 10 school?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:44 pm to
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Without knowing the ranking system (might explain some rankings) that's a terrible list, FWIW.


Sorry, but that list is aweful. The US News and World Report is actually a legit one that is pretty consistant with others. The one cited has Baylor as unranked when they are easily a top acedemic institution in the Big 12
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1664 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:45 pm to
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the pac10 gives them power


Another vague statement that I don't understand.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:45 pm to
This has nothing to do with academics. Nothing. Once again, Texas was quite content being in a sh1tty academic conference for as long as the Big 12 has existed. And they were fine allowing a good football player that would eventually lead their team to a NC show that academics are so important as his wonderlic score was borderline Peter Griffin.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:48 pm to
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but that list is aweful


I could not agree more.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:48 pm to
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Sorry, but that list is aweful. The US News and World Report is actually a legit one that is pretty consistant with others. The one cited has Baylor as unranked when they are easily a top acedemic institution in the Big 12


Yeah, and I may be kind of biased, but LSU is not close to the level ND is, and the ARWU has them at the same level (no disrespect intended, Tiger fans ).
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 9:24 pm to
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Also, I used the Academic Rankings of World Universities (ARWU) because it is the most used university ranking system in the world.


And it's complete bullshite. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois ahead of Northwestern??

You used it because it fits your argument.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36446 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 9:35 pm to
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You used it because it fits your argument.


I don't think so. He could have used the USNWR rankings and gotten the exact same thing he was looking for (PAC 10's much better than the SEC in the academic department). I think he did use it cause it's the "most cited" or whatever, like he said, I just think it's completely stupid that it is the most cited, since it's a terrible list, with terrible criteria.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 9:36 pm
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