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re: What does Miles do better than Orgeron?

Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:15 pm to
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And so you think a career dline coach will do better? Ha ha ha. You act like its worse to in November than in oct. Losses are losses. In the last 4 years we are 2nd in the sec in wins and 2md in west in wins.
Listen dipshit, I'm not defending Alleva not interviewing anyone but O, but Miles had to go. He should've been gone LAST YEAR at this time.
There is no way in hell that we would've beaten the teams we did in the manner we did with Miles still in charge. Probably would've shown up uninspired against Missouri and Arkansas and maybe eked out the same wins, but it was past time for a change.
BUT, it doesn't excuse this halfassed search.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:16 pm to
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Can you also please explain how the offense put up over 600yds in 3 of the 7 games and if you think they would have under miles?



Because we have a different OC. Why does O get credit for what Engsminger did?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44816 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:21 pm to
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Can you also please explain how the offense put up over 600yds in 3 of the 7 games and if you think they would have under miles?
LSU fired Les and Cam?

The doesn't mean you need Coach O as your HC.

I could have fired Les and Cam and promote TE coach to OC.

Even in his great "interimism" Coach O is 11-4 and didn't beat a ranked team.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69489 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:22 pm to
He promotes him and allowed him to run the offense unlike the jackass we had to fire...was our offense/team not better with CEO than it was with CLM? It's a yes or no question
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:24 pm to
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LSU wants more than to just be "okay"


bullshite, otherwise they would've paid Herman
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:25 pm to
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He promotes him and allowed him to run the offense


So do O/Engsminger get blame for the shite playcalling like Miles/Cam did?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77044 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:28 pm to
Coach O is a good ball coach who will get us to some bowl games. What more do you want as a fan?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44816 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:30 pm to
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Coach O is a good ball coach who will get us to some bowl games. What more do you want as a fan?
Ok, you're trolling.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6051 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:30 pm to
Makes a better stuffed cabbage
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69489 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:32 pm to
Yes the goal line play calls vs Florida, especially 3rd down sucked. Now you answer my question
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48013 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:26 pm to
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Can you also please explain how the offense put up over 600yds in 3 of the 7 games and if you think they would have under miles?



So youre in favor of keeping Ensminger for OC? Thats who was responsible for the offense. Not some dline coach that wasnt good enough to be our dc.
Also, we fired miles to get a better coach. Not some career dline coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48013 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:31 pm to
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cause we have a different OC. Why does O get credit for what Engsminger did?



Exactly. They fail to see their hypocrisy. They tout out offense for a reason to keep orgeron and in the same post talk about getting a real OC. Its fricking pathetic. Its a shame that a coaches best attribute is not knowing enough about running an offense or defense to get in his coordinators way.
This hire is the most unqualified hire in big 6 history and the people that are happy about this hire are the reason we will never be better than bama.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60639 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:33 pm to
Win

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60639 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:35 pm to
No

We have the exact same or better record w Miles
Posted by radicalizedtigah
Member since Aug 2016
3495 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:36 pm to
Big Cat Drill
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:39 pm to
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The point of firing Miles WAS TOO GET SOMEONE BETTER.


End of thread
Posted by semperfitolsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
515 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:41 pm to
Key word YET!!! We can't change anything. Support the players and let them know we have their back for the future of the program. A coach isn't the program, but the decisions he makes can affect them. And I think O will do a great job at finding the key pieces to making this program elite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48013 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:51 pm to
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There is no way in hell that we would've beaten the teams we did in the manner we did with Miles still in charge. you


You have no clue if this is true. Also, please enlighten me as to why ed orgeron gets credit for the offense.
Yes it was time for miles to go but we shouldnt fire les miles to hire a career dline coach that isnt even getting defensive coordinator offers.
I responded to what you posted because you act like losing in October is somehow acceptable over losing in november. In the last 4 years of Miles tenure lsu was 2nd in the sec in overall wins and 2nd in the sec west in sec wins. You posted November losses like other sec west programs dont have losses earlier inn the year.

Les miles is far more qualified and a far better coach than ed orgeron.
If you dont believe it go look at the program miles inherited at Oklahoma state and see how well he did.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168631 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:56 pm to
I just think removing Miles just sort of gave the team a natural reboot. More guys like Gage, Anderson, Devin White, Savion started to see more time, you saw more passing on early downs, short throws to TEs, to get etling going, thus helping take pressure off the run game and setting up big plays downfield. All that obviously went to shite vs bama thanks to a familiar game plan, but Ensminger deserves a lot of credit.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69489 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:01 pm to
Where are all these job offers for your hero...how many national championship winning coaches are available? Why wouldn't Texas interview him?
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