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Teams get better when crowton leaves don't they?

Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:07 pm
I remember reading this from Antonio moss I believe..

The offense the following season of the team he leaves does exceptionally better than the previous season with him there.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:12 pm to
LSU be stylin' in 2011 fo sho.
Posted by mikelsu15
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:17 pm to
In all seriousness, how could it not be better? It would have to be the worst hire of all time for it to get worse. How much better is the key.
Posted by Chd1478
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:20 pm to
We still managed not to lose less than 8 games a year in his span here while our offensive never broke the Top 80 statistically his final 3 seasons.

That's a testament to our talent.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:24 pm to
IDK. I guess you could check Oregon's and BYU's records after Gary left.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:26 pm to
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IDK. I guess you could check Oregon's and BYU's records after Gary left.


The point of the thread was to try to fish out someone who had already done the work
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:30 pm to
i'm trying to remember that poster that warned us when we hired him. those stats have been regurgitated several times over though; prolly not that hard to search for.

"crowton two years" should work.
Posted by ddbnsb
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:36 pm to
LINK

LSU Fans Will Suffer Because of Gary Crowton
Posted on January 18, 2007 by Josh Harrison

My buddy Shane and I were coming home from work yesterday and we were listening to sports radio. Upon hearing the news of Gary Crowton leaving Oregon for LSU, we both chuckled. After a hard day of work, it always great to hear news like this.

It looks like Crowton is following my advice by getting out of Eugene. He needs to make sure to stay at LSU for only one year. Most likely he won’t. I want LSU fans to know why Gary Crowton is going to cause you pain when he stays more than one year.

First of all, let me preface these comments by saying that Gary Crowton is a great person. I’m sure he is a great husband/father. But because of what he did to BYU football, just thinking of his tenure here in Provo makes me cringe.

The news of Crowton’s hiring is circulating around the internet. LSU fans are gitty about this hire. Here are a few for you to enjoy:

* The Wishbone
* Tightwad-hill
* Daddy D’s Story Time
* Redsox Tiger Rebel Truth

Not many agree with me that this will be a bad hire. It looks like David James and I are in agreement.

Let me explain why I think this will be a bad hire.

Crowton runs a version of the spread offense. When he gets a new job, his first year has been great. Let the stats explain.
Chicago Bears

1999: Bears record was 6-10. Their offense scored 272 points (17/game), 7th worst in the NFL. 31 TDs, 7th worst in NFL (source). Leading passer: Shane Matthews

2000: Bears record was 5-11. Their offense scored 214 points (13.4/game), 4th worst in the NFL. 22 TDs, 3rd worst in the NFL (source). (The thing that you want to do from an offensive standpoint is you want to score points.) Leading passer: Cade McNown

It’s safe to say that he didn’t have the greatest quarterbacks to run his offense. Get this though. In 2001, the Bears went 13-3 with Jim Miller as the quarterback. They scored 338 points (21.1/game), good enough for 11th in the NFL.

BYU

2001: BYU went 12-2. They scored an amazing 608 points (46.8/game). Luke Staley was the leading rusher in the nation. However they got killed in their last two games. Everybody loved Crowton as head coach. What a great season! But it was a terrible watching them get killed by Hawaii and Louisville. Coincidentally, Luke Staley was injured in the two games BYU lost.

2002: Their record was 5-7. BYU’s first losing season in 30 years. They scored 272 points (22.7/game).

2003: BYU went 4-8. They scored 196 points (16.3/game). They didn’t score a point in the game versus Utah, the first time they went scoreless in a game in my lifetime.

2004: BYU went 5-6. They 267 points (24.3/game).

BYU went from scoring 608 points in 2001 to a low of 196 points in 2003! This was against average teams in the Mountain West Conference. He was the head coach and offensive coordinator at BYU.

Oregon

2005: Oregon went 10-2. They scored 414 points (34.5/game).

2006: Oregon went 7-6, losing their last 4. They scored 383 points (29.5/game).

There you have it. The only year he improved upon his previous year while at the same program was 2004. BYU couldn’t have gotten any worse after a terrible year in 2003.

The truth is Gary Crowton has a good offense. But smart teams are going to figure it out. Guess who was coaching Utah when BYU went scoreless in 2003-Urban Meyer. Most of the coaches in the SEC are almost as smart as Urban and they will shut down LSU’s offense. LSU has great athletes and he will find a way to make them look bad.

The Las Vegas Bowl was a great game this year. For most fans, I am sure it was a boring game. BYU almost shut out Oregon and won the game 38-8. Watching Oregon play brought back bitter memories of when Crowton was at BYU. They looked clueless out there. BYU’s secondary was injured. They didn’t have most of their best players playing because of injuries. Crowton failed to take advantage of his highly athletic receivers. Instead he was worrying about which quarterback to play on which down.

Be ready for an undisciplined offense that fails to make any adjustments-during the game or season.

LSU will probably have a great year with their athletes. They will score a lot of points. But don’t expect them to stay that way. Not with Crowton as the offensive coordinator. The numbers don’t lie.
This post was edited on 1/15/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Russell2Bowe
Memphis
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 1:58 pm to
Well, the year he left Oregon was the year Chip became OC and they were tearing it up until Dixon went down against (I think) Arizona.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:05 pm to
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We still managed not to lose less than 8 games a year in his span here while our offensive never broke the Top 80 statistically his final 3 seasons.


55th in 08 is not top 80? And our scoring offense was never outside of the top 80.
This post was edited on 1/15/11 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

LSU has great athletes and he will find a way to make them look bad.


quote:

Crowton failed to take advantage of his highly athletic receivers. Instead he was worrying about which quarterback to play on which down.


quote:

Be ready for an undisciplined offense that fails to make any adjustments-during the game or season.


Damn did this guy fricking nail it or what.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

55th in 08 is not top 80? And our scoring offense was never outside of the top 80.
that's not exactly a ringing endorsement
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:44 pm to
am I crazy ? or wasn't he just the Chicago Bears special teams coach .. not the OC .. ?
Posted by ztraveler
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
564 posts
Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:49 pm to
CROWTON IS GONE..YES...LSU WILL BE GREAT IN 2011

1999 Bears Team offensive ranking 26th Crowton OC 6-10
2000 Bears Team offensive ranking 28th Crowton OC 5-12
2001 Bears Team offensive ranking 11th with John Schoop as OC
(not Crowton) 2001 the Bears went 13-3


2001 BYU - 618 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2002 BYU - 272 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 5-7
2003 BYU - 196 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 4-8
2004 BYU - 267 Points scored in 11 games. Crowton's 4th year. 5-6
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2005 BYU - 396 Points scored in 12 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 6-6
2006 BYU - 478 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 11-2


2005 Oregon - 414 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 1st year. 10-2
2006 Oregon - 383 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 7-6
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2007 Oregon - 496 Points scored in 13 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 9-4
2008 Oregon - 545 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 10-3



2007 LSU - 541 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2008 LSU - 402 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 8-5
2009 LSU - 323 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 9-4
2010 LSU - 313 points scored in 12 games Crowton’s 4th year.
(7 passing TDs - 1 a HB pass, 27 rushing TDs, 31 XPs, 26 FGM)
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 2:51 pm to
Can only go up!
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Posted on 1/15/11 at 3:16 pm to
too much evidence to think otherwise, praise the lawd
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