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Q&A on Chavis

Posted on 12/19/08 at 4:21 pm
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 12/19/08 at 4:21 pm
More positive thoughts; not sure if this has been posted yet. Its a pretty honest evaluation of Chavis from a seemingly pretty knowledgeable Vol fan. FWIW.

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Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 4:42 pm to
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Chavis is going to give you rock-solid defenses. It's not a cute style and he's really boring at the podium. But those kids are going to come to work for him every day and every single play, he's going to put them in the right spots, and let their natural talents do the rest. If I was LSU I would love to have him, and as a Tennessee fan if this happens I'm glad we don't play you next year. And I won't be glad when we do in 2010.


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WS: I'd say Phillip Fulmer would give Chavis a five-star recommendation, and if Fulmer wanted to coach again right now (which I don't think he does, not this year anyway) he'd take Chavis with him in a nanosecond. He'd also take the defensive assistants.
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Letting Chavis recruit defensive players with Les Miles and the more talented state of Louisiana to pull from? Oh, I'd like that very much. The Vols had a history of going out and getting the best players and Chavis was a big part of that - on that list of NFL starters I used earlier, only Al Wilson and John Henderson were from the state of Tennessee—everyone else Chavis went out and got. With a better talent pool to start from, I shudder to say it, but Chavis defenses could be even better.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/19/08 at 4:46 pm to
That is interesting article. Especially the part where he said one of his greatest attributes was consistency, something I was critical of on him. I've watched them over the years and they didn't seem consistent to me. But seeing as that guy is a Vol fan, sure he knows more about Chavis than me.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17669 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:00 pm to
It would be a solid hire no doubt. Of course we'll have to listen to all of the idiots whine that Les should have made a run at Belichick or try to steal Monte Kiffen from his son at UT.
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
36335 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:03 pm to
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I just didn't want to type my response out again. I guess I could quote it.


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Thanks for the article DF. However, here are my problems with it:


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There's a percentage of Tennessee fans who've voiced displeasure at what he's done over the last few years, but when you look at the numbers to me those concerns came more out of a general dissatisfaction with the program instead of specific issues with the defense - the Vols are 4th nationally in total defense right now with an offense that's ranked 116th in the same category.
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Here are Tenn defensive rankings from another post:

2004 #45
2005 #7
2006 #50
2007 #70
2008 #4

and Tenn record in 2008 is 5-7 and in 2005 Tenn record was 5-6.


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Under Chavis, the Vols have put guys like Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Darwin Walker, Al Wilson, Deon Grant, John Henderson, Al Haynesworth, Gibril Wilson, Jason Allen, and now Jerod Mayo in the NFL as starters.
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Besides, Wilson, Allen, Mayo and now Berry, all those other great players commited when Peyton Manning was repping UT. What talent have they really had since?


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Getting back to the "soft zone" - Tennessee defenses were typically aggressive under Chavis, except in third down situations. The biggest complaint Vol fans would have about him is what some would call "Third and Chavis", where the Vols employed their "Mustang" package - three down linemen, two linebackers and six DBs
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Will not go over well with LSU fans.


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The first two years Chavis saw the spread, the Vols crushed it - they gave up 16 points to the Gators in 2005 (and gave away 10 of those from special teams errors), and 21 in 2006. Problem is, Florida won both those games. But Chavis had the guys ready and put his athletes in the right spots. Same thing happened this year - Florida won 30-6...
In 2007, Tennessee was so young on defense that Florida torched them for 59


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It was said that Chris Leak running the spread was like watching Arnold Schwarzenegger run a 5K in high heels. UF still won those games if I remember correctly. And UT's not so bad loss this year was pre-LSU v. UF when UF hit their stride and were struggling to find a running game.

Doesn't appear to be handeling the spread well at all. (although no one else is stopping it right now either.) The bigger concern is all the fresh blood in the SEC that he has to deal with now in Saban, Petino, Nutt, Whoever AU hires. Plus, SOS always scores 24+ on him at South Carolina.


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Chavis is not the best in the world at the halftime adjustment - the Vols do what they do and if you can figure out a hole in it, or if you drastically change what you do, Chavis is either stubborn or something else and we never adjust. Why did LSU beat Tennessee in the SEC Championship Game in 2001 when Rohan Davey and LaBrandon Toefield went out? Because we didn't make any adjustment to Matt Mauck. Why did UCLA beat us this year? Because when Kevin Craft stopped throwing deep over the middle after his fourth interception and just went to the short dumps, we didn't make any adjustment.
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This is my biggest problem. Inability to make half time adjustments kill so many teams and I think it's one of the marks of a great coach as to how they make these adjustments.




I know he was a solid DC at one time, but he hasn't been lately, he hasn't brought in the talent they once did with Manning/Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry and hasn't handled the change in the SEC very well from what we've seen. I think his inability to make half time adjustments and soft coverages will make more people hate him than Tepper.

IMHO and FWIW.


Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:11 pm to
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whine that Les should have made a run at Belichick or try to steal Monte Kiffen from his son at UT


Yeah...why isn't Les getting off his arse, and calling Jeff Spagnuolo or Dick Lebeau? Why wouldn't they want to come here?

Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:12 pm to
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I know he was a solid DC at one time, but he hasn't been lately, he hasn't brought in the talent they once did with Manning/Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry and hasn't handled the change in the SEC very well from what we've seen. I think his inability to make half time adjustments and soft coverages will make more people hate him than Tepper.
can't make everyone happy. I think he would be great.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:20 pm to
Walker seems like a safer hire, although he might be here for only two years or so.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36335 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:26 pm to
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Walker seems like a safer hire, although he might be here for only two years or so.


I want the guy who as asperations. He won't try to meet expectations, he will try harder to exceed them.
Posted by islstl
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2006
794 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:47 pm to
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Walker seems like a safer hire, although he might be here for only two years or so.



Ok, so what makes you say Walker would be the safer hire? He's much less experienced. He doesn't have nearly the credentials as Chavis.

If you're going to go with a "safe" pick, then Chavis is the answer. If you want to take a risk and maybe possibly get a bigger upside, then possibly you go with Walker.

No way can Walker be perceived as a "safer" pick.
Posted by Derby Tigah
TJ! TJ! TJ!
Member since Sep 2005
10897 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:52 pm to
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Inability to make half time adjustments kill so many teams and I think it's one of the marks of a great coach as to how they make these adjustments.


ding, ding, ding
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:55 pm to
it amazes me. We have a chance to get the DEF COOR from tennessee! every other d coor we have ever got was a up and coming. Chavis is proven and well respected. He has been there for 18 years? i mean he must be terrible.

I am on the chavis bandwaggon. I actually HOPE he wants to come here.
Posted by Derby Tigah
TJ! TJ! TJ!
Member since Sep 2005
10897 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:55 pm to
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I want the guy who as asperations. He won't try to meet expectations, he will try harder to exceed them


2-for-2

Chavis is only an old DC and there is no where to go for him now

I like young energy ..I guess getting Coach O w/ Chavis wouldn't be so bad as long as there is some form of young energy from one who aspires to be more than an old DC riding out in the sunset
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46381 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:06 pm to
Being a longterm DC doesn't necessarily mean you don't bring energy or aren't passionate about putting the best product on the field (as opposed to just getting by to draw a paycheck). Besides Chavis, look at guys like Mickey Andrews, Dick LeBeau, Monte Kiffin. Those guys tend to have young energetic assts under them though.
Posted by Tiger1955
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2007
677 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 3:18 pm to
I would rather not have a retread/failure, lets find a someone who can defense the spread option attack. Tennessee hasn'tdone any better than our guys against Florida
Posted by FullBloodedTiger
Jefferson Hwy
Member since Jan 2008
697 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 3:40 pm to
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Inability to make half time adjustments kill so many teams and I think it's one of the marks of a great coach as to how they make these adjustments.



ding, ding, ding



Thats EXACTLY right!!! How many times have halftime adjustments saved our team? Just this year are last, how many times was our offense, but specifically our defense, getting manhandled only to come out after halftime with a better gameplan and a fire lit under their a$$.

We NEED a coach who can make good halftime adjustments. If he cannot or is "too stubborn", that is a sign that he is either a poor coach or a complete dumbass
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 4:00 pm to
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I would rather not have a retread/failure, lets find a someone who can defense the spread option attack. Tennessee hasn'tdone any better than our guys against Florida
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