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re: Jon Embree plays race card regarding his firing

Posted on 11/27/12 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 9:49 pm to
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But then again he's for affirmative action so he's probably not even worried about people being able to read as long as a proper number of blacks were passed thru first and second grade.


Rooney Rule isn't affirmative action but you're not the sharpest tool in the shed
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 9:52 pm to
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The last time I looked at big-time college football the majority of players are Black and the head coaching ranks are pretty much lily white. That's cause for concern right there. Blacks can be the labor but not the leadership?


And here we have it. Blacks are more racist than whites IMO. Shaft and Rocket should go ahead and join the Black Panthers.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21049 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:51 pm to
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Blacks can be the labor but not the leadership?


Paging mike tomlin, lovie smith, herm edwards, tony dungy, kevin sumlin, charlie strong, eddie robinson, doug williams.

Several more but I'm not googling it tonight.

Bottom line good coachs are good and bad coachs are bad, but i think all coachs should be given 3 years to bring in their own players and get their systems in place.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76210 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:52 pm to
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eddie robinson, doug williams.


Coaches from Grambling don't help your argument
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21049 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:58 pm to
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eddie robinson,


All time winningest coach in college football. I know its lower division but you still gotta be good to win 408 games.

Just using some regionally affiliated coachs that some people will know.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:02 pm to
Eddie Robinson...talk about a coach who did a lot with very little in terms of resources and support.
Posted by RossK10
Member since Nov 2012
15 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:33 pm to
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Sly Croom. He had more experience and held the same positions as Mike Shula

You don't think Charlie Strong would have liked to coach at Tennessee? You think Kiffin was more qualified than him?

You think Gene Chizik was more qualified than Turner Gill to coach at Auburn?

The list goes on. You are in denial because you really are against the advancement of black coaches in football. If you weren't, you wouldn't be opposed to the Rooney Rule.


Were any of the guys that you mentioned interviewed for the job? I don't keep up with coach interviews, so I'm really not sure.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:39 pm to
I don't recall off the top of my head.

And if they weren't, they should have been. Croom has stated that at one point, he would only consider going back to the college ranks is if it was Alabama. He got passed over because he was black. Mike Shula was not more qualified for that job than Sly Croom.
Posted by veerbone
Mangham, LA
Member since Oct 2011
401 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:42 am to
Has anybody mentioned that Embree had never even been a coordinator before getting the HC job?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92646 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:55 am to
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Tyrone Willingham got another chance after ND because he showed some competency at some point.


Ty has one of the rare "legitimate" race cards to play - he was the ONLY ND coach in modern history to not get 5 years. And, perhaps coincidentally (perhaps not), he was the only AA head coach in school history. What is compounded is that the fat fraud that they fired him to hire got 5 years, mainly on the successful foundation built by Willingham.

Now, I don't agree with him about the "systemic" part of the charges he made after he left Notre Dame, but, at least in isolation, his claim he was treated differently appears legitimate on its face.
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