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re: If there is not an offer to Tom Herman than alleva has failed

Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by lurkr
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:09 pm to
I'm not trading places with Ole miss
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:10 pm to
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We had an nfl qb rb and two elite nfl receivers and got our shite pushed in running a pro style offense.


you mean the offense that asked for max protection and had two receivers running into the pattern?

Jimbo Fisher's offenses have ranked in the top 22 in passing yards per attempt five of the past six years.

LSU, by contrast, has had one offense that ranked in the top 35 in that category in that same span — the 2013 offense.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:12 pm to
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This bullshite has got to fricking stop. I don't know why we are hiring a coach to begin with...we should just concede to Saban. No need to play the game since the only guy that can beat him is the one that lost to SMU and Navy.


Bama is the best team in the country and is in our division ignoring what works against them is relegating yourself to a bunch of 10-2 seasons with no championships in your division conference nor national championships. It is what it is
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:12 pm to
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MrWiseGuy


you're rather active on here recently. How you been?
Posted by therick711
South
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26098 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:12 pm to
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We have gotten our shite pushed in in every game the past half decade and on the win you speak of over half a decade ago we didn't even score a touchdown.


We had an nfl qb rb and two elite nfl receivers and got our shite pushed in running a pro style offense.


It's time for a change


No one is arguing that. LSU was the last pro style offense to beat them. It wasn't even very good. Ergo, imagine playing defense like that and running an offense that is commiserate with Jimbo's usual production.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:13 pm to
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No one is arguing that. LSU was the last pro style offense to beat them. It wasn't even very good. Ergo, imagine playing defense like that and running an offense that is commiserate with Jimbo's usual production.



What's jimbos record and offensive production vs UF?
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:14 pm to
I'm pretty sure ULM had a pro style offense when they beat saban
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27772 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Bama is the best team in the country and is in our division ignoring what works against them is relegating yourself to a bunch of 10-2 seasons with no championships in your division conference nor national championships. It is what it is


do you know what worked against them, quarterbacks making plays from within the pocket. that's what worked

Ohio State hit deep crossing routes, deep fly patters, made vertical plays throughout the game.

Trevor Knight threw for 350 yards in OU's win.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:15 pm to
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What's jimbos record and offensive production vs UF?


I think his record is 4-1. I'm not sure what his numbers against just them are.

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55 November 27, 2010 Tallahassee, FL #22 Florida State 31–7
56 November 26, 2011 Gainesville, FL Florida State 21–7
57 November 24, 2012 Tallahassee, FL #4 Florida 37–26
58 November 30, 2013 Gainesville, FL #2 Florida State 37–7
59 November 29, 2014 Tallahassee, FL #1 Florida State 24–19
60 November 28, 2015 Gainesville, FL #14 Florida State 27–2


ETA: Make it 5-1.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61860 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:16 pm to
He's 5-1 and has averaged 27.6 points against them.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27772 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
BUT WAS IT FROM THE SPREAD??!!!???!!?!?!?!?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
Ole miss has scored 40+ on bama the past two years. Manziel beat them then put up over 40 the next season. Auburn put up 35 on them in 2013 then 40+ in 2014
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:18 pm to
LSU put up 9 on them and beat them.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:20 pm to
Over 5 years ago. The game is changing and jimbo ain't changing with it.


Might I also add its much easier to get qb production out of the spread. Herman is using a wide receiver and beat the crap outta jimbo
Posted by dreww221
Member since Nov 2009
469 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:20 pm to
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The only hope in hiring Jimbo is Saban would retire in 3-5 years but then what if Bama would then hire Dabo? Fisher wouldn't beat Dabo either. He gonna lose like Miles 2.0.


LOOK EVERYONE!!! This is what a bumbling idiot who knows absolutely nothing about football looks like.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27772 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Ole miss has scored 40+ on bama the past two years. Manziel beat them then put up over 40 the next season. Auburn put up 35 on them in 2013 then 40+ in 2014


Can Chad Kelly not make throws from the pocket? Could Johnny Manziel not make plays throwing the ball down the field?

I drink a lot, but I seem to recall Sammie Coates and Duke Williams tearing the Bama secondary up a lot.

ETA: Just looked up the 2014 Auburn-Bama game ... Auburn threw for 456 yards. Coates had 206 yards receiving and Duke had 121

It's football, my man. Teams that are successful have quarterbacks that make smart decisions and are accurate with the football from the pocket.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Over 5 years ago. The game is changing and jimbo ain't changing with it.





How does that have anything to do with Jimbo? Jimbo beat that 2013 Auburn team for a national title. They beat Bama! Must be awesome. Couldn't beat Jumbo for a title.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10849 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Please name one pro style offense that has beaten bama in the past 5 years


Maybe Alleva has to go after the coach that the people writing the check wants

EVeryone seems to thing that EVERYTHING is Alleva's fault like he has no bosses or politicians or TAF money people to answer to.
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36790 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
He lost to SMU and Navy. Stop ignoring it.

The guy is a good coach and so is Jimbo. Settle down. Relax.

Comparisons of jimbo to Les offensively tell me you people aren't well.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
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quote: Ole miss has scored 40+ on bama the past two years. Manziel beat them then put up over 40 the next season. Auburn put up 35 on them in 2013 then 40+ in 2014 Can Chad Kelly not make throws from the pocket? Could Johnny Manziel not make plays throwing the ball down the field? I drink a lot, but I seem to recall Sammie Coates and Duke Williams tearing the Bama secondary up a lot.



They can do everything but the qbs you are discussing minus possibly kelly are way less skilled throwing the ball than mett Aaron Murray and jameis Winston bama is 4-0 vs those and didn't play jameis
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