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re: Herman situation
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:44 am to Space Cowboy
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:44 am to Space Cowboy
One thing that 9458 said on Geaux247 (and here?) that just doesn't add up to me:
He said that Aranda has immunity, and Sonny and Shea have both backed up that LSU is adamant about a raise and extension for him regardless of the coach, so why would we NOT be refusing Pruitt? Not like he's going to come in as Co-DC for marginalized pay.
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the Pruitt rumors of us refusing him are completely false),
He said that Aranda has immunity, and Sonny and Shea have both backed up that LSU is adamant about a raise and extension for him regardless of the coach, so why would we NOT be refusing Pruitt? Not like he's going to come in as Co-DC for marginalized pay.
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:46 am to JPLSU1981
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-Someone got wind of it and told Texas insiders (Sexton maybe?)
Okay fine, how would Sexton or anyone else for that matter become privy to a deal between LSU and Herman?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:48 am to drizztiger
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Who you got?
How about Kyle Whittingham over Gundy...same winning % in a harder conference, beat Alabama, has winning percentages to every conference except his own which is almost 50%....and his record is improving not going down like Les.
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I'm just saying not all is lost if LSU doesn't land Herman/Jimbo.
Agreed, but I think if we do not land a top tier, it may be a black eye appearance wise firing a winning coach.
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There are more than 10 coaches in all of football that can coach.
agreed, I just think there are better coaches than Gundy and Fedora (cannot even beat 3-9 South Carolina team). There is more promising talent for a coach. Being stuck on the offensive minded side limits us way too much. Just need good coach that can get the best staff at their respective jobs, ie Saban
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:52 am to Space Cowboy
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Space Cowboy
Man we get it.. you've made your point, give it up
I'm not saying you're wrong but jeez
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:07 am to misey94
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Herman loses said leverage if LSU suspect his agent as the source of the leak and pulls back from negotiations
Herman’s camp never would have leaked the story if they wanted to go to LSU. Now I don’t know what he wants to do, but I know his stock will never be higher than it is today, so if I were Herman, I’d try to get another job before my stock inevitably falls down, but nonetheless I don’t think he wants to come to LSU. Otherwise, his camp never would have leaked the info about the LSU offer.
On the other hand, I don’t think LSU was serious when it made the offer to Herman and was just playing Herman to take the media’s focus off of Fisher and somehow Herman got wind of what LSU was up to, and then his camp leaked the news of the LSU offer. Which is what LSU was hoping he would do.
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In most situations like this, and intentional leak is seen as a breach of good faith and terminates any deal.
That’s exactly what I said.
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LSU could attempt to go back to Fisher
The deal with Fisher is already a done deal, which is why they are trying to take the focus off of Fisher. As LSU learned from its mistakes last year when the LSU administration was crucified by ESPN and the national media for scheming behind Miles’ back to fire him and replace him with Jimbo Fisher.
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So, for all the reasons you may think that this leak came from the Herman camp, there are still reasons against it. The only direct report is that the word came from Texas boosters who were unhappy. Anything beyond that quote from Geoff Ketchum is pure conjecture on both sides.
What I’ve read on several sites is that the so-called leak came from Armstrong, Herman’s agent.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:07 am to Space Cowboy
quote:Just to clarify, you think it's Jimbo?
Space Cowboy
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:20 am to GeauxBullies
quote:I missed this part.
So, I am not impressed and how did out last OSU guy work out?
I'm not Les fanboy, but he worked out pretty well. Even if you don't agree, attaching a coach to a previous school and thinking that matters is ridiculous.
I can't express enough my truth is that you hire the resume/talent.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:21 am to RuLSU
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Not true.
He had a few "leaks" before the misinformation part came up.
Who you are talking about? If you are talking about 9458, I read his very first post that has since been deleted when he warned and explained what would be happening in the next few days regarding the misinformation campaign to counter the national and local press. Moreover, everything he has said in that first post is still 100 percent accurate to this day, and I can't say the same thing about both DA and Random. Nonetheless, don't take my word for it, go read his profile page, as he has also reiterated what he said several times today.
If you are talking about DA and Random, it's obvious that their posts haven't been very accurate, especially Random.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:21 am to Space Cowboy
Herman is coming to LSU Jimbo is out that's pretty much common knowledge now. If all the leaks are coming out and it's not true again the entire athletic department loses their jobs and the fact Alleva was asked about it point blank during the game and didn't squash it also points to a done deal. Ppl have to quit looking at this like it's last season last year we had a coach now we have an interim and there's an open search going on which means you want it done as soon as possible so of course leaks will be coming out that's normal. And the fact that time is paramount it's a good thing we are hearing it's done already.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:27 am to misey94
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The only other outlet to mention details of a source was Orangebloods
I've read all those sites at one point or another tonight via links posted on this site, but I think I read about Herman's agent on a site I think is called landry.com, but I'm not sure that's the full name. Indeed, they even said Herman's agent's full name, which was the first time I had heard that guys name, since I didn't know his name before. I also saw his name mentioned on several other sites as well today, but not the full name. Anyway, I think it was on that Landry.com site, but it could have been another site, as I lost track of all the sites I read today, but it was a bunch of them.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:31 am to I-H8-BAMA
All I got to say about that is go read LSUtigers9458's profile pages.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:34 am to I-H8-BAMA
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There is NO WAY to say that we have been fed MISinformation if we don't even know what the RIGHT information is yet. You follow me?
You don't know. It doesn't mean that I don't know. Now I don't know for sure, but in all probability I do know the correct information.
Like I said, go read 9458's profile pages.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:35 am to Madking
Pretty simply, if it's Jimbo now - then one guy and only one guy will reach epic BelowPar cred. And it's a bold move, cotton.
Random and DALSU have flipped positions, but for me, I attribute it to the fluidity of this type of situation. DALSU I don't know except for last year. Random has years of cred.
My man Carson connects says it's Herman too. It's difficult to argue against that. Maybe it's disinformation too and the wool is pulled over everyone.
Maybe, dunno. But if it is Jimbo, then one stands alone.
For me, I'm happy either way. Jimbo or Herman ++ LSU == SEC fricked.
Random and DALSU have flipped positions, but for me, I attribute it to the fluidity of this type of situation. DALSU I don't know except for last year. Random has years of cred.
My man Carson connects says it's Herman too. It's difficult to argue against that. Maybe it's disinformation too and the wool is pulled over everyone.
Maybe, dunno. But if it is Jimbo, then one stands alone.
For me, I'm happy either way. Jimbo or Herman ++ LSU == SEC fricked.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:36 am to Ironhead985
I agree, out of all the insiders giving alleged inside information, he is the only one so far that has been 100 percent accurate thus far. It's hard not to believe what he says. So I'm in.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:39 am to I-H8-BAMA
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You know this for an absolute fact? And if you cite reports could you link them? I just want to see for myself because if there is a credible source that says Armstrong leaked the info then that's huge.
I've read a bunch of different sites from various links posted on this board throughout the day. However, I believe it was from a site called landry.com, but I'm not sure, since I read so many sites today. Heck, I'm not even sure I got the name of that site landry.com correct.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:42 am to DALSU
Really?
Well wasn't Les Miles "under contract" when LSU fired his arse?
I have a feeling that this is all bs with Herman and his Agent is playing games to get Texas to get moving.
Well wasn't Les Miles "under contract" when LSU fired his arse?
I have a feeling that this is all bs with Herman and his Agent is playing games to get Texas to get moving.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:43 am to Ironhead985
Gundy is coaching at his alma mater in the town he grew up in. He's not going anywhere. Besides he is a legend in Oklahoma.
Meanwhile, his offenses have always been pretty good, but his defenses have always suck to high heaven.
Meanwhile, his offenses have always been pretty good, but his defenses have always suck to high heaven.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:45 am to lsuman25
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I could live with Gundy if we missed on Jimbo/Herman. Today is gonna be a wild one later on especially after Houston is done playing.
I could live with coach O with a new offensive coordinator better than I could with a Gundy or Fedora. But don't worry because the Fisher negotiations are a done deal.
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:47 am to Stud Bud
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This either makes no sense or Herman could give 2 shits about his players if he would give his agent authorization to do this the day before his team plays a fricking game.
I'm just saying what I read, I'm not judging the guy.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:49 am to drizztiger
The flip flopping is actually correct. Friday we hit some type of snag and Alleva panicked and started saying yes to everything and everybody for a couple days. There was some mass confusion over something between Arrandas ppl and Alleva. That's where the back and forth came from. I haven't followed anybody on here about this until tday because I have a few guys and I wanted some better info before I joined the discussion.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 5:50 am
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