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re: Co-Defensive Coordinator
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:50 am to Boom_boom
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:50 am to Boom_boom
I agree, I have stated that Arnett is that guy. And because you went after a diverse hire, choosing a white guy at this point shouldn’t be frowned upon.
However, this is just another option that should be discussed if O targets Nielsen.
If you hire Raymond as Co-DC.. your other Co-DC should have a fair amount of play calling experience.
However, this is just another option that should be discussed if O targets Nielsen.
If you hire Raymond as Co-DC.. your other Co-DC should have a fair amount of play calling experience.
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:53 am to TigerLaw40
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but they weren't going after Freeman primarily because he is a black man
If you believe that, I think you’re being a bit naive.
I’m with you on Tem!
1.) Zach
2.) Tem
3.) Nielsen/Ash
That’s my personal list of guys I like for job.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:00 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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because you went after a diverse hire, choosing a white guy at this point shouldn’t be frowned upon.
It should NEVER be frowned upon trying to hire a guy that gives you the best opportunity for success. regardless of the color of his or her skin. I don't like the mentality of "we tried to get a man of color first so now it's ok to hire a white guy."
I like the idea of Arnett as much as I liked the idea of Freeman.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:03 am to Boom_boom
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I don't like the mentality of "we tried to get a man of color first so now it's ok to hire a white guy."
Very much agreed with this statement, which is why I say it is ridiculous to even think that Freeman being a black man was even a primary reason LSU was going after him first. They were going after him b/c he was one of the most qualified for the job.
Now that they've missed him, then they need to move to whomever the believe is the next most qualified.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:05 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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Just hire Zach Arnett. He is slightly better than even Freeman
What makes you think that?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:08 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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If you believe that, I think you’re being a bit naive.
How so? Who on here or even in non-LSU circles didn't think that Freeman was one of the most sought after names at the position this off-season?
I reiterate, LSU went after him primarily b/c he was one of, if not the best choices for the position. The fact he is a black man was an added bonus.
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1.) Zach
2.) Tem
3.) Nielsen/Ash
That’s my personal list of guys I like for job.
If you are going to go the Co-DC route and want a minority hire, then I'd say pairing Nielsen and Lukabu together would be the best option; however, probably not a realistic one.
But Nielsen gives you your DL coach from the coordinator position, along with O and probably Lac as GA. Lukabu gives you your LB position coach.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:11 am to TigerLaw40
Intentionally targeting minorities for positions is a practice that is almost universal in business and sports.
My company is a $10,000,000,000 company... We make intentional minority hires, it's part of the hiring process.
If you don't like it, I understand your position. I'm stating that Freeman being a minority was a large feather in his cap. Believe what you want to believe.
This thread is about the possibility of having a Co-DC to have upside and stability. As well the pretty well known factor that O wants to make a diverse hire.
My company is a $10,000,000,000 company... We make intentional minority hires, it's part of the hiring process.
If you don't like it, I understand your position. I'm stating that Freeman being a minority was a large feather in his cap. Believe what you want to believe.
This thread is about the possibility of having a Co-DC to have upside and stability. As well the pretty well known factor that O wants to make a diverse hire.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:19 am to Lsuismyfav
That's what the numbers say. His time at SD State was special.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:26 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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If you don't like it, I understand your position. I'm stating that Freeman being a minority was a large feather in his cap. Believe what you want to believe.
His race being a feather in his cap and it being the primary reason he was offered the job are two entirely different things. I do agree with the premise that him being a minority is a definite plus in this climate.
Back to the topic, I personally do not like the Co-Coordinator title for any position. I think it can be accomplished internally. I wouldn't be opposed to Raymond getting an Asst DC title added to his name.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:28 am to Basura Blanco
I'm with you. But, I would lean towards hiring an experienced play caller captain the ship.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:33 am to IowaCityTigerFan
O hasn’t been able to make 1 competent DC hire, now you want him to make 2 at the same time?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:33 am to Basura Blanco
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I personally do not like the Co-Coordinator title for any position
Usually the "co" is really an "assistant."
Regardless of titles, there is always one guy in charge. It's an opportunity to give a guy a raise, a title and promote continuity when the main DC leaves for a head coaching job.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:40 am to Bjorn Cyborg
That's not how they see it.. they think this as two faces steaming at each other to pick a play.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:46 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Malveto has LSU fans scared shitless and they should be.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:47 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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I'm with you. But, I would lean towards hiring an experienced play caller captain the ship.
Totally agree.
I believe on defense, it is less about a specific front or "his defense" and more about having an overall defensive concept that is simple/flexible enough to make adjustments from series to series. With Co-Coordinators, it seems to me doing anything in the heat of a game would be one too many decision makers.
But what do I know, I thought we were getting that in Pelini.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:00 pm to deuce985
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Malveto has LSU fans scared shitless and they should be.
Yeah, but Pelini II was much worse.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:36 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
Unfortunately, many have huge egos and that approach will not work if we want them. It could work with the right guys but will get be able to replace the one that leaves and keep it going. Who knows.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:51 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
after last year, I would just be happy if the CB coach and the safeties coach were coordinating together on every play.
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