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Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:36 pm to TexasTiger46
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Any chance these DC candidates are contacting Chavis, getting his view on things and then that influences them not to seriously consider the position?
They don't have to contact him. Running him off looks bad and will hurt you for hiring coaches in the future.
Your AD crowing about the buyout in the paper didn't help the situation either.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:38 pm to jlc05
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Maybe the other coaches got tired of him not recruiting and were vocal about it
Some of you are fricking idiots. As bad as I want to know who our coach is goingto be, Im glad this is a process. The ideas some of you are coming up with prove how stupid our fan base is.
The state of our offense and special teams and "3rd and chavis" and whatever else is just as frustrating to me, if not more, than most of you dumbfricks. But goddamn yall are making it hard to try to keep up and search for intelligent ideas and updates on the situation.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:42 pm to misey94
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He wasn't very active in the offseason doing allowed duties. Many DCs recruit VERY hard during these periods. Muschamp comes to mind.
He's been all over Tennessee recruiting 4 guys that LSU was going to get.
This "reputation" started with ignorant UT fans, and now butthurt LSU fans are running with it.
LSU pulls what, 4-5 guys outside of Louisiana and East TX every year? Chavis has gotten a couple of guys from the Carolina's, he got the Chicago LB that Tennessee was on, he was going to get those Middle TN guys and Dylan Jackson.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:43 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Most defensive coordinators aren't out on the road recruiting...
I hope your coach shares those expectations because it's about to become a reality for aTm.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:44 pm to ShreveportTiger1987
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Why would they not want this defense, with it being as young and talented as it is
Because the head coach fields one-dimensional, mediocre offenses four out of five years that puts pressure on your defense to be perfect.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:45 pm to CountryVolFan
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LSU pulls what, 4-5 guys outside of Louisiana and East TX every year? Chavis has gotten a couple of guys from the Carolina's, he got the Chicago LB that Tennessee was on, he was going to get those Middle TN guys and Dylan Jackson.
And Frank Wilson, Brick Haley, and Corey Raymond do 5 times that amount of work on the trail, and everyone here knows it. They are the ones at the camps and racking up the miles. This has been known here. Sure, Chavis brought in a few guys, and of course he would be key with LBs, since that is his position, but to say that he is a Muschamp level recruiter shows that you have no fricking idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:45 pm to Gladius Veritas
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I would think most DCs prefer coaching a team whose offense helps them out, rather than screwing them over
Totally agree. You don't have to be perfect on defense if you have a QB who completes more than 50 percent of his passes.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:46 pm to cheo25
That leads the league in TOP
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:47 pm to misey94
Again, position coaches always do the lions share of recruiting. This is not unique to LSU
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:48 pm to cheo25
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Totally agree. You don't have to be perfect on defense if you have a QB who completes more than 50 percent of his passes.
And Chavis gets a "Young D" pass for 3 losses last year with a QB completing well over 60%. It happens. Cam gets the same benefit of the doubt from me unless he sucks next year.
FWIW, Chavis earned that pass in my book, and they did improve this year. I'm not hating on him for last year. Just pointing out the double standard. They were not aggressive, and didn't generate sacks or turnovers, but they did get better overall.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:48 pm to SwaggerCopter
I think the "full story" would include some element of Chavis not earning his keep on the recruiting trail. Not to mention blowing 10 final drive leads in the last 4 seasons.
He simply didn't get it done.
He simply didn't get it done.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:55 pm to misey94
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but to say that he is a Muschamp level recruiter shows that you have no fricking idea what you are talking about.
No one is comparing him to Mushamp. But you are all over the board acting like he's taking a nap while the others are out pounding the pavement. That's just a meme.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Again, position coaches always do the lions share of recruiting. This is not unique to LSU
Look man. I don't know what to tell you. If you ask the LSU recruiting experts on the Recruiting Board, they will tell you the same. He did less than the typical big name DC. This is well know around LSU. The pay site guys all said this, as well. They especially would have said differently, if it really was different.
FWIW, I've seen at least one of them reporting that Chavis isn't the only one that is perceived as "not pulling his weight." No names were mentioned, but that would likely be Peveto or Ensminger, since the rest are well thought of as recruiters.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:58 pm to misey94
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LSU recruiting experts on the Recruiting Board
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:59 pm to CountryVolFan
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No one is comparing him to Mushamp. But you are all over the board acting like he's taking a nap while the others are out pounding the pavement. That's just a meme.
Well, he kind of sets the standard for that pay grade, don't you think?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:02 pm to HECKFIRE
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Some of you are fricking idiots. As bad as I want to know who our coach is goingto be, Im glad this is a process. The ideas some of you are coming up with prove how stupid our fan base is.
The state of our offense and special teams and "3rd and chavis" and whatever else is just as frustrating to me, if not more, than most of you dumbfricks. But goddamn yall are making it hard to try to keep up and search for intelligent ideas and updates on the situation.
Lol. It's old news, jackass. Who's the fricking idiot now? Seems to be you.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:04 pm to misey94
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Well, he kind of sets the standard for that pay grade, don't you think?
Chavis is a better X/O guy than Muschamp, Muschamp is a better recruiter. But both guy hold their own at both.
"Chavis doesn't recruit" is a meme touted by "recruiting board experts." We will see the impact for A&M after the dead period is over. I think Phillips and Martin stay with UT, but I think Amadi and Jackson could jump to A&M. I think he's going to have a lot of influence on Leo Lewis, Daylon Mack, and Malik Jefferson.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:33 pm to CountryVolFan
Could be, but I have my doubts. Right now, Lewis is dumping everybody, but will likely end up at OM. So far, Amadi hasn't wavered. If he left, I don't think it would be to A&M. According to 247, he doesn't even have an offer. It is rare that guys suddenly flip to a school they've had no contact with up to this point. UT, maybe. We shall see after our hire.
Mack was never going to be an LSU commit. However, I wouldn't be shocked if he rescheduled a visit if we hire O. It will just be to pump his own name a little more, but it's better than being completely off the list. He's a real drama queen. Evidently TCU is the team du jour.
Also, if we hire O before the week is out, expect a big last second push for Philips based on keeping Amadi. He already expressed some interest in O on Twitter. It's late considering he is an EE, but you never know.
Mack was never going to be an LSU commit. However, I wouldn't be shocked if he rescheduled a visit if we hire O. It will just be to pump his own name a little more, but it's better than being completely off the list. He's a real drama queen. Evidently TCU is the team du jour.
Also, if we hire O before the week is out, expect a big last second push for Philips based on keeping Amadi. He already expressed some interest in O on Twitter. It's late considering he is an EE, but you never know.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:37 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Again, position coaches always do the lions share of recruiting. This is not unique to LSU
Sounds like Chavis landed in the right spot then. Minimal expectations...
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