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The Things They Carried, good book?

Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:54 pm
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Posted by CTexTiger
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:27 pm to
Very.

Then read another of his...In the Lake of the Woods. Even better.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:22 pm to
Yeah it’s a classic.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:22 am to
Has to be fiction. Don’t believe some of those stories
Posted by midnight1961
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:47 pm to
I liked it.

I would highly recommend this book if you liked it.

Rumor of War by Phillip Caputo

Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:03 am to
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Has to be fiction.


It is fiction. He wrote it in first person, but all the characters in it are fictional characters, though many are based on real people. A lot(maybe all?) of the events in it are based on real events with fiction added.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:40 am to
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Has to be fiction. Don’t believe some of those stories



He pretty much tells us that it doesn't matter whether or not the stories are true.
Posted by Htowntiger90
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:46 am to
Very good book. I heard O'Brien speak at an event at the WWII museum. He dropped enough anecdotes from his own story to tell you much of it is based on real events.

A Rumor of War is very good also. And Matterhorn is a good novel if you're looking for fiction based on the Vietnam War.
Posted by John Gotti
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:48 am to
absolutely...i was required to read it in college but didn't truly appreciate it until a re-read.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:57 am to
I just finished the chapter where the high school blonde pops up in Vietnam. Yeah, then she is hanging out with Green Berets, going on patrol with them, becoming skilled in ambushes, um yeah.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:52 pm to
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He pretty much tells us that it doesn't matter whether or not the stories are true.


As I recall he wrote it because he was frustrated with the many misconceptions people had of the Vietnam War when he got home, and he intentionally blurred the lines between fact and fiction in it.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:56 pm to
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I just finished the chapter where the high school blonde pops up in Vietnam. Yeah, then she is hanging out with Green Berets, going on patrol with them, becoming skilled in ambushes, um yeah.


Wasn't this a story told by Rat Kiley? It isn't told by O'Brien himself, right? That's kind of the point of the Sweetheart of Song Tra Bong. Its not real. Or is it? Kiley stops halfway through the story to ask the listeners where they believe the girl is. When one suggests she's with the Green Beret's, that's where Kiley places her in the story. Its not meant to be a true narrative. It furthers O'Brien's theme of How to Tell a War Story; the truth doesn't matter, but how the listener feels the story in their gut.

If you want to dig further, the story is about the loss of innocence. But that also kind of misses the point. Whether or not the story is true doesn't matter. What matters is that the story is told, and the listener has a reaction to it.
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