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re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy Recommendation & Discussion Thread
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:25 pm to shinerfan
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:25 pm to shinerfan
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Book 2 is by far the worst book of the first six. But book 3 is where the series really comes into it's own and the characters start to emerge. Especially Mat. If you're two books in you really should go just one more
Really? I was told, on here, book one was the worst of the entire series and that book two was one of the best. That's why I pushed on past book one because I really didn't like it too much, especially the ending.
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 4:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Dangit I thought it was just a trilogy. That is extremely disappointing to hear.
Yeah it sucks. But like I said, Lies is a GREAT book and works as a stand alone novel. While the first in a series, it does tell a complete self contained story.
Personally, I’d be hesitant to read the second and third books right now given the authors inability to complete the series.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:36 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Way too much writing on useless stuff. Someone would walk in a room and he'd spend a whole page describing the room that they were in for 5 minutes that played absolutely no role in the story. Or the endless amount of mind wondering/thoughts of certain characters. I mean that stuff adds up to pages upon pages of
Book 3 is where the series really starts to take off, particularly it's when Matt becomes a good character.
However, the stuff I quoted from you above doesn't change at all for the entire series, it actually gets way worse in books 7-11. So if you didn't enjoy book 2 at all you probably won't enjoy the rest of the series.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 1:14 pm to auyushu
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Book 3 is where the series really starts to take off, particularly it's when Matt becomes a good character.
However, the stuff I quoted from you above doesn't change at all for the entire series, it actually gets way worse in books 7-11. So if you didn't enjoy book 2 at all you probably won't enjoy the rest of the series.
Yea I don't think I'll go back to it. If his writing style isnt my cup of tea through two books, I doubt I will make it 14. I went far enough to see why people like it though.
I guess I should have researched Gentleman Bastards a little more before starting. I think i'll stop after book one on it since it has a bit of a conclusion. If book four was the concluding book, I would probably read all three and hope he comes out with four, but this dude has gone 10 years in between releases and plans on doing SEVEN. Hell no
Posted on 3/28/22 at 1:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Lies of Locke was pretty good, was right after my Sanderson kick so very drastic change in tone/language . Red seas over red skies was a bit of a step down but the 3rd was pretty good outside of one minor irritation to me at least…unless you have something you really want on the back burner they’d be worth reading even though we’ll probably never get conclusion.
. Red seas over red skies was a bit of a step down but the 3rd was pretty good outside of one minor irritation to me at least…unless you have something you really want on the back burner they’d be worth reading even though we’ll probably never get conclusion.Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:31 pm to spehog
Finally getting into the whole Abercrombie First Law world. I'd dabbled in some of the books, but for some reason, it didn't really take with me. Now, though... loving it.
I read A Little Hatred as a standalone a while back, and found it to be okay. It didn't really resonate with me, though, for some reason. Then I read Best Served Cold... and I loved it. Now I've circled back and am finishing out the Age of Madness trilogy and absolutely loving it.
Pumped that there are quite a few more books to read now that I'm into this world.
I read A Little Hatred as a standalone a while back, and found it to be okay. It didn't really resonate with me, though, for some reason. Then I read Best Served Cold... and I loved it. Now I've circled back and am finishing out the Age of Madness trilogy and absolutely loving it.
Pumped that there are quite a few more books to read now that I'm into this world.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:50 pm to hogfly
Red Country is a really good western set in that world. If you have read the first trilogy it makes it even better.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:32 pm to shinerfan
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Book 2 is by far the worst book of the first six. But book 3 is where the series really comes into it's own and the characters start to emerge. Especially Mat. If you're two books in you really should go just one more.
I do not agree with this. Book 2 was one of my favorites in the series. I would put the first 6 books as:
4 > 6 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 1
They're all very good in my opinion though. Eye of the World was still a lot of fun.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:04 am to nes2010
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Red Country
Red Country is my favorite of the stand alone books.
I enjoyed the most recent trilogy - The Age of Madness - and judging by the ending of Wisdom of Crowds, we're going to get more books in this universe.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:26 am to boxcarbarney
The one thing I'm a little torn on with Abercrombie (and I really do think his writing is awesome) is how I feel about just how heavily analogous the entire world and cultures and tech development and history is to our own. I mean, it's basically like rewriting European History and Industrial Revolution and such while changing the names and geography.
But... I also REALLY like that aspect of it, because I'm a fan of history and like the way he plays around with the analogs to our world.
But... it can also make it feel a little less creative or something. I don't know. Love the books, regardless.
But... I also REALLY like that aspect of it, because I'm a fan of history and like the way he plays around with the analogs to our world.
But... it can also make it feel a little less creative or something. I don't know. Love the books, regardless.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:49 am to hogfly
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But... it can also make it feel a little less creative or something. I don't know. Love the books, regardless.
You could say that about most fantasy authors to a certain extent though. Very few have completely original worlds, and most are integrating Earth cultures into their work in some way or another.
But I would agree that world building is definitely not Joe's greatest skill set for sure. But to be fair Joe is basically the author version of Tarantino, he's just taking previously done ideas and subverting expectations and doing his own spin on them. Best served cold is basically the grimdark version of The Count of Monte Cristo. He basically came up with the First Law series after wondering what would have happened in Lord of the Rings if a certain main character was evil instead of good.
Though I definitely appreciate the truly great world builder authors more when I come across them because of that, even though I'm more of a plot and interesting characters guy in terms of stories.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 11:19 am to auyushu
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He basically came up with the First Law series after wondering what would have happened in Lord of the Rings if a certain main character was evil instead of good.
Hah. That's kind of awesome. I'm just starting First Law after finishing Age of Madness, so I can totally see Bayaz as an anti-Bayaz.
I think one of the reasons it feels so marked with this series is that it's covering a lot of the same themes and historical developments as Stephensons' Baroque Cycle. So you get like, the rise of the merchant class, banking, decline of magic, etc.. as well as a lot of similar cultural pieces.
Anyway, loving the books and pumped that there are enough to keep me reading for a while.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:28 pm to hogfly
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same themes and historical developments as Stephensons' Baroque C
It does for sure, but like I said, so do tons of series. Sanderson's Mistborn series does the same thing as it goes along into the Alloy of law series. Wheel of time plays on the same themes of technology rising up to match magic with the cycles of the wheel. It's pretty commonplace with any fantasy series that goes through a long batch of history throughout the series.
I need to put the a Baroque cycle on my reread list sometime, it's a great series. I need to read more of Stephenson in general though.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:55 am to auyushu
Just finished listening to act one of The Sandman. I know it's DC but it definitely is Fantasy.
Man this book is weird. Definitely not what I was expecting. This is probably the weirdest thing I've ever listened to or read. I wasn't sure how much I was liking it until it got to the four short stories at the end until I realized just how good it was.
The volume where Dream is sitting on a park bench talking to Death while the kids are playing in the background. Dream is feeling down so Death takes him around to see a few people die to cheer him up. Then when they return to the park bench and one of the kids chases a soccer ball that went out into the street... Whoa. That was heavy. I had to pause it after that and it weighed on me. The volume with the cats and a Midsummers Night Dream were pretty great too.
The audible version is really well done and it gets your imagination going but I am curious to actually read it in comic book form with images. I think I'm going to do that with the final half of the story.
Man this book is weird. Definitely not what I was expecting. This is probably the weirdest thing I've ever listened to or read. I wasn't sure how much I was liking it until it got to the four short stories at the end until I realized just how good it was.
The volume where Dream is sitting on a park bench talking to Death while the kids are playing in the background. Dream is feeling down so Death takes him around to see a few people die to cheer him up. Then when they return to the park bench and one of the kids chases a soccer ball that went out into the street... Whoa. That was heavy. I had to pause it after that and it weighed on me. The volume with the cats and a Midsummers Night Dream were pretty great too.
The audible version is really well done and it gets your imagination going but I am curious to actually read it in comic book form with images. I think I'm going to do that with the final half of the story.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:55 am to iwyLSUiwy
Sandman is Gaiman's best work by far, and that's saying something. But yeah, some parts get pretty far out there.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:56 am to auyushu
Im in act 2 now on audible, so I dont know where I would be in the comics, but I just listened to the part about the two kids being dead at the boarding school. Those are the one's that throw me off. There are multiple chapters like that that are just super weird that dont really progress the story. I guess that would be a stand alone short story, but it's just odd and honestly tough to follow, even with the A+ audible dialog.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:42 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I'm way late to the party but just finished name of the wind. I know everyone craps on this Rothfuss guy but it was quite good. Third book coming out in a few months I believe
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:50 am to SUG
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Third book coming out in a few months I believe
I'll believe it when I see it. Did you enjoy the fairy porn?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:01 pm to MSMHater
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I'll believe it when I see it. Did you enjoy the fairy porn?
is that in book 2? thats my fetish
i think book 3 release date is set for June
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:04 pm to SUG
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that in book 2? thats my fetish
Yes! Sorry, I may have mixed up 1 & 2. You'll love it!
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