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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:47 am to
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:47 am to
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I only read the first so cant recommend further, I am curious what you mean by cliffsnotes to a larger book?

As in, you were more interested in the other side of the story as opposed to paul and his whole prophecy deal?



I guess I am referring to the time lapse stuff.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:14 am to
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I guess I am referring to the time lapse stuff.


I see, that seems to be a bit of a stylistic theme for the early sci fi - asimov, heinlein, etc. all did that.

I guess its a way to fit a large scope of story into a manageable size, but definitely does leave out some of the details in most of today's stories where you feel like you are with all the characters throughout their whole journey.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:14 pm to

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YR4QR18/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gtY0Db1YF4TGV

I know I've got a thread on it,but this is a mil/sci-fi/fantasy x-over.


Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:14 am to
Sounds interesting. I'll check it out once I get through my current pile
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 4:23 pm to
Bought the peter brett demon cycle book 1.

Saw a lot of the names from some of yalls recommendations in the bookstore this time. Eames, woodring and a few others.

Also I noticed erikson has some sci fi stuff out now, one book about the day of earths first contact with aliens looked interesting.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:04 am to
I'm about halfway through Red Rising - really like it so far and they are super easy books to read. Is it just a trilogy or did they end up writing more - it is marked as a trilogy on my copy of Book 1.

Probably going to try and get through the whole trilogy / series by the end of the year to hit my book goal.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:10 am to
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I'm about halfway through Red Rising - really like it so far and they are super easy books to read. Is it just a trilogy or did they end up writing more - it is marked as a trilogy on my copy of Book 1.


Quick google shows 5 books. Not sure if 4 and 5 are spinoffs/successors instead of direct sequels.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:09 am to
Ya that is what was confusing me, wasnt' sure if those other two are extending the original story, a second trilogy in the world, spinoffs, etc.

I'm sure I'll read regardless, enjoying this story a lot more than I thought I would.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 5:13 pm to
It is a second trilogy, which has also been good so far. Not sure when the third book is scheduled to be released.
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Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:04 am to
Darrow is very well developed and interesting with his internal conflict, but I haven't really connected with too many other characters. Sevro, Roque, Mustang and the Obsidian that follows Darrow are all pretty good but I wish I had a better feel for some of the evil characters.

Overall, very good and fast paced story. I've got about 80 pages left in Golden Son, just found out about Fitchner
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:45 pm to
About 2/3 of the way through The Warded Man by Peter Brett - book 1 of his demon cycle series. Started this book yesterday morning and have had a hard time putting it down, it follows along the coming of age style of traditional fantasy with people leaving their small town in search of the surrounding world, but is very well written and has a great set of main characters.

ETA: Reading online it seems that the rest of the series got very, very mixed reviews. Has anyone read this series? Thinking about moving on after this first one since he switches the character POVs it looks like.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 11:07 pm
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 7:29 pm to
The demon cycle is solid Sally, but it definitely doesn't end as strong as it starts. And I don't enjoy Jardir as a main character as much as the warded man(whose name I can't even remember off the top of my head, guess that's not a good sign).

Brett is definitely well behind most of the newer fantasy names for me, though I did enjoy the entire series. I think the setting and world for that series are far more interesting than the characters.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 7:40 pm to
Ya, I ended up finishing last night and the book fell off a bit in the last 100 pages or so, but still a good read.

And now that I think about it, the setting with hints if going from magic to science to was / loss and back to magic was one of the interesting aspect of the story I wanted to find out more about

I started reading endymion, figure I'll finish up the hyperion saga now.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 12:47 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/21/19 at 10:39 pm to
Does anybody know of any well written fantasy or science fi that is about the leader of a populist style revolution, or any revolution, and follows th as that main character to sort of almost mythical status.

Danton in Shadow Campaigns seems like it, I've only read book 3 so that could have more. Also the original mistborn book has that kind if feeling. Red rising certainly as well although I need to read book 3.

I've read most of the famous ones with that kind of stuff, but more of a fantasy about people rising up thing under a leader who becomes almost dieified as opposed to stories about fighting The dark one, evil zombie hoard, nations fighting over thrones, etc.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 12:03 am
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 1:30 pm to
Red rising most definitely is in that vein, as you mentioned, and shadow campaigns definitely has that as a major component.

China meiville's the Scar and Perdido street station fit the bill on the populist elements and attempted revolution, but not on the mythical leader parts.

The powder mage series kinda fits the bill here, but that's already on your list.

I feel like I'm forgetting a couple books that would fit the bill here.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:56 am to
Awesome, thanks for the recommendations and let me know if you think of anything else.

Its a pretty common theme to touch on, but I've really enjoyed all the books I've read where it is a major part of the story.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:51 am to
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Also the original mistborn book has that kind if feeling.

I took a pit stop from WoT to read the first Mistborn and it immediately jumped into my mind for what you mentioned. The idea/theme you mention is pretty interesting though.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:14 pm to
Ya, iI've really enjoyed this theme in books I've read - also read about some of the real historical populist revolutions and you can see some parallels to certain things going on in our society today
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:11 pm to
Listened to Dune Messiah on audiobook while driving for work today. It had some cool parts and ideas but not really a captivating conflict to center the whole story around imo.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Awesome, thanks for the recommendations and let me know if you think of anything else.


I thought of two more that fit the bill for revolutionary fantasy with uprisings.

The Greatcoats series by Sebastian de Castell is basically a plot centered around overthrowing corrupt nobles much like shadow campaigns. It's a fantastic series.

Lord of Light by Zelazny if you haven't already read it fits the bill too, with a legendary leader overthrowing the Kings of a world that basically made themselves gods. It's one of those sci fi that blends into fantasy hybridswe were talking about, and one of my all time favorite sci fi books.
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