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Finally started Catch 22.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:51 am
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:51 am
Pretty damn funny. Been awhile since I read a book filled with so many great one liners.
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Posted on 6/23/19 at 10:50 am to prplhze2000
It's easily in my top ten books.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:36 am to prplhze2000
Yossarian looked at him soberly and tried another approach. ‘Is Orr crazy?’
‘He sure is,’ Doc Daneeka said.
‘Can you ground him?’
‘I sure can. But first he has to ask me to. That’s part of the rule.’
‘Then why doesn’t he ask you to?’
‘Because he’s crazy,’ Doc Daneeka said. ‘He has to be crazy to keep flying combat missions after all the close calls he’s had. Sure, I can ground Orr. But first he has to ask me to.’
‘That’s all he has to do to be grounded?’
‘That’s all. Let him ask me.’
‘And then you can ground him?’ Yossarian asked.
‘No. Then I can’t ground him.’
‘You mean there’s a catch?’
‘Sure there’s a catch,’ Doc Daneeka replied. ‘Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.’
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
'That's some catch, that Catch-22,' He observed.
'It's the best there is,' Doc Daneeka agreed.
‘He sure is,’ Doc Daneeka said.
‘Can you ground him?’
‘I sure can. But first he has to ask me to. That’s part of the rule.’
‘Then why doesn’t he ask you to?’
‘Because he’s crazy,’ Doc Daneeka said. ‘He has to be crazy to keep flying combat missions after all the close calls he’s had. Sure, I can ground Orr. But first he has to ask me to.’
‘That’s all he has to do to be grounded?’
‘That’s all. Let him ask me.’
‘And then you can ground him?’ Yossarian asked.
‘No. Then I can’t ground him.’
‘You mean there’s a catch?’
‘Sure there’s a catch,’ Doc Daneeka replied. ‘Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.’
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
'That's some catch, that Catch-22,' He observed.
'It's the best there is,' Doc Daneeka agreed.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 4:01 pm to prplhze2000
I thought the book started off great, but for me it lost some of its magic toward the end.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:41 pm to prplhze2000
An outrageous book. I'm overdue to read it again; my insanity needs a little nurturing. 
Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:52 am to prplhze2000
“I see everything twice “
Posted on 6/25/19 at 2:39 pm to Adajax
The ending part where yossarian learns about what really happened with Orr may be the hardest I've ever laughed at a book. I thought the end was perfect there.
I need to read it again, it is probably my favorite book and it has been forever.
I need to read it again, it is probably my favorite book and it has been forever.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:59 pm to prplhze2000
My wife named our dog Yossarian
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:08 pm to prplhze2000
I read it twice.
It's one of the best American novels ever written and also a courageous novel. It's an anti-war book about ww2. At the time, that was sorta verboten.
It's one of the best American novels ever written and also a courageous novel. It's an anti-war book about ww2. At the time, that was sorta verboten.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:09 pm to AllbyMyRelf
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My wife named our dog Yossarian
I named my boat the Wisconsin shingles.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:45 pm to Pandy Fackler
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It's an anti-war book about ww2.
I disagree that it is an explicitly anti-war book. Anti "Army bullshite" (and bureaucracy, generally)? Certainly. Anti-"certain aspects of war that are hella unpleasant"? Absolutely. I think it was also informed by the post-war American experience, our growing pains as the lone superpower (and then in competition with the USSR during the early decade or so of the Cold War), and the military industrial complex (epitomized by Milo.)
But against the aims and goals of the war or, rather, being against that particular war? Meh. Never got that.
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