re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

I haven't been keeping up with this thread in its entirety, but have yall already discussed the visions in the house of the undying pretty extensively? Can we do it again or does anyone know about what page it's on? I'm talking about something like making a list of them all and seeing what's come true and what hasn't and maybe coming up with theories on the ones that haven't?

I don't think the House of Undying is something that can have too much discussion, I'd say knock yourself out.

I know several parts have came true already, and the rest are simply unclear or open to interpretation for the most part (like the fake dragon in the crowd and whatnot.).

Actually the Ice and Fire Wiki has done most of the work for you:

The warlock Pyat Pree persuades Daenerys Targaryen to seek answers in the House of the Undying. Inside, she passes through many rooms containing visions before she reaches the chamber of the Undying.[2]

- A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four of the dwarves who serve the house.

- A feast of slaughtered corpses holding cups, spoons, and food, with a dead man with a wolf's head sitting on a throne wearing an iron crown, apparently foreshadowing the Red Wedding.

- Daenerys' childhood home in Braavos.

- A throne room with dragon skulls on the walls where a king resembling Aerys II Targaryen sits on a barbed throne and appears to give the order to burn the Red Keep during the Sack of King's Landing.

- A room where a silver-haired man (presumably Rhaegar Targaryen) names his son Aegon, says the child is "the prince that was promised", then plays a harp.

- A "splendor of wizards" who falsely claim to be the Undying of Qarth and offer to teach Daenerys the secret speech of dragonkind.

- Upon reaching the chamber of the Undying, Daenerys is spoken to in a barely perceptible whisper. The Undying call her "mother of dragons" and "child of three" and tell her some prophesies, saying "three fires must you light... one for life and one for death and one to love... three mounts must you ride... one to bed and one to dread and one to love... three treasons will you know... once for blood and once for gold and once for love..."


The Undying show Daenerys many more visions before attacking her and being slain by Drogon[2]:

- Viserys' gruesome death.

- A tall lord with copper-skin and silver-gold hair beneath a banner of a fiery stallion, with a burning city in the background (this may be a glimpse at what Rhaego's future would have been).

- A dying prince (likely Rhaegar Targaryen) with rubies flying from his chest, mutters a woman's name with his last breath.

- A blue-eyed king who casts no shadow raises a red sword in his hand.

- A cloth dragon sways on poles amidst a cheering crowd.

- A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.

- Daenerys' silver trots through grass to a darkling stream under a sea of stars.

- A corpse standing at the prow of a ship with bright eyes and grey smiling lips.

- A blue flower growing from a chink in a wall of ice, filling the air with sweetness.

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- A dying prince (likely Rhaegar Targaryen) with rubies flying from his chest, mutters a woman's name with his last breath.

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Clearly Lyanna

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- A corpse standing at the prow of a ship with bright eyes and grey smiling lips.

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Greyscale...but who? Jon Connington?

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- A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.

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Dragonstone

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- A blue-eyed king who casts no shadow raises a red sword in his hand.

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Who is blue eyed?

It'd be one hell of a twist.

FWIW, I don't think it could be all that far fetched either. I think this may be where there's some ties to the story of the "Night's King" ( Click me).

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A blue-eyed king who casts no shadow raises a red sword in his hand.

If Jon Snow is reborn as a wight/Other would he then have blue eyes and a red sword?

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- A feast of slaughtered corpses holding cups, spoons, and food, with a dead man with a wolf's head sitting on a throne wearing an iron crown, apparently foreshadowing the Red Wedding.

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- A tall lord with copper-skin and silver-gold hair beneath a banner of a fiery stallion, with a burning city in the background (this may be a glimpse at what Rhaego's future would have been).

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- A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.

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These intrigue me very very much

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- A blue flower growing from a chink in a wall of ice, filling the air with sweetness.

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But this one is the most interesting to me. What does it symbolize? Lyanna (wall of ice) and Rhaegar (blue flower)??

Filling the air with sweetness??? Flower coming from inside the Wall?? Jon Snow reference I'm sure, just think it was interesting.

Something else to think about is that some of those visions may be of what will never come to pass such as the reference to Dany and Drogo's child (the silver-haired, copper skinned "stallion").

I could see Bran going that route but the red sword steers me towards Jon given his current predicament.

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That one was especially intriguing to me, as well! I think it's referring to something within the wall - with it's roots planted in the ice. It's got to be some sort of Stark/Jon Snow reference but who knows the meaning?

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I tend to think it's a reference to Jon Snow's lineage. That the blue rose is associated with Lyanna (via the Tournament at Harrenhal and in Ned Stark's fever dreams/memories) and Jon Snow is obviously the current Stark at the Wall.

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I tend to think it's a reference to Jon Snow's lineage. That the blue rose is associated with Lyanna (via the Tournament at Harrenhal and in Ned Stark's fever dreams/memories) and Jon Snow is obviously the current Stark at the Wall.

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Yep...seems about right.