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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:23 am to FightingOkra
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:23 am to FightingOkra
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Of course he did. Because if his unfinished stuff was released we'd all see what has been obvious for years. The ending to his series is the exact same as the ending to the tv show. That's why he hasn't finished it. He saw the massive negative reaction to how the show ended and he doesn't know how to change it to make it better.
I'm firmly convinced this is what happened. And that he doesn't know where to go/what to do. And his ego is too big to allow another writer to help.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:37 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Some of that may be true, but it was still 8 years between the release of A Dance With Dragons and the final season of GOT. He was delaying and lollygagging long before people witnessed his ending.
I think he started and saw an easier path to completion (the show) and chose to put his story in their (Benioff and Weiss) hands and do other things (Fire and Blood).
I think the vision of the ending was the same but the path been more detailed.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
Has nothing to do with the tv show, imo. The biggest issue with the show was t the result, it was the process. It was doomed when they settled on 6 episodes.
The issue is the web he’s weaved. There’s just too much shite going on and unless he just kills a bunch of characters off, I don’t know how he untangles it.
The issue is the web he’s weaved. There’s just too much shite going on and unless he just kills a bunch of characters off, I don’t know how he untangles it.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:22 pm to DestrehanTiger
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it was still 8 years between the release of A Dance With Dragons and the final season of GOT. He was delaying and lollygagging long before people witnessed his ending.
This is true. Martin pretty much started sucking when his original 5 year gap plan after ASOS didn't work out. He never really recovered and knew how to fix it, hence AFFC and Dance weren't nearly on the same level as the first 3. The poor reception to the show's ending pretty much just was the nail in the coffin for him never finishing.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:40 pm to DBG
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There’s just too much shite going on and unless he just kills a bunch of characters off, I don’t know how he untangles it.
Absolutely. For a seven-book series whose two main antagonistic forces are an impending invasion of Westeros by the White Walkers and an impending invasion of Westeros by Daenerys, after five books the White Walkers are still north of the Wall and Daenerys is even further from Westeros than when the story started and has apparently settled down to stay there.
I think Martin got lost in his own sauce and had so much fun playing with the various characters through the first five books that he forgot what the point of the story was supposed to be, and has now screwed himself on ever being able to finish it with the same level of detail as the massive prologue that he has written.Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:40 am to TheTideMustRoll
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I think Martin got lost in his own sauce and had so much fun playing with the various characters through the first five books that he forgot what the point of the story was supposed to be, and has now screwed himself on ever being able to finish it with the same level of detail as the massive prologue that he has written.
Dude, it's been over 15 years, let's stop with the "He can't finish because it's complicated" narrative
There are books out there way more complicated than ASOIAF and authors release them on schedule. Plenty of books with a deeper story and more POV characters. Hell we have tigerdroppings users that have come up with the outcome of all the POV characters in the books, much less the author that has had it in his head for 30 years.
He's just a lazy bum. He got his feelings hurt that everyone hated his ending and gave up on it. The dude went through a lock down pandemic for years and came out of it with less written than he started.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:25 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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He's just a lazy bum. He got his feelings hurt that everyone hated his ending and gave up on it.
I can't argue with this.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 6:25 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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There are books out there way more complicated than ASOIAF and authors release them on schedule. Pl
No kidding. Steven Erickson finished the entire Malazan book of the fallen series in 12 years, and that was 10 books that averaged 1000 pages each and were super complicated stories. And that series finished with an excellent final book that wrapped things up nicely.
Martin has absolutely zero excuses.
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