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Anyone ever read Shogun?

Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:35 am
100 pages in and I'm totally hooked. I love books with good, detailed political maneuvers and calculations, and this book is full of them (granted I still understand absolutely nothing about how feudal Japan operated in the 1500's.) The society feels more alien than books that are set on frickin Venus, and the whole thing is just samurai awesomeness so far.



Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:25 am to
It’s on my list to read.

There was a thread earlier this year that discussed this and the other books by that author in detail.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:28 am to
Thanks, just checked it out. The OP in that thread was almost identical to mine
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2722 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:41 am to
Yep, one of my favorite books ever.

The entire Asian Saga is supposed to be great but the only one I've read so far is Shogun.
Posted by Sody Cracker
Distemper Ward
Member since May 2016
3409 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:10 pm to
Read them all and loved reading them.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3183 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:15 pm to
One of my all time favorite books.

Honor
Betrayal
Violence
Torture
Treachery
Samurai
Sex Toys

This book has it all
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:37 pm to
Top 5 book for me.

I listened on Audible. With 15 hours to go I was starting to get bummed it would come to an end.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10628 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:36 pm to
May not have been the "best" book I ever read but one of the most fun. Feudeal Japan of that era was even crazier than the book, which is based on history.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21696 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:17 pm to
I was considering adding it to my reading list a while back, but then I read a bunch of reviews from Japanese people that said it was romanticized horseshite as far as accuracy. It's probably still a good story, but it made me decide to hold off on reading it.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

bunch of reviews from Japanese people that sad it was romanticized horseshite


Possible. But it’s not like they were there. Haha!
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
997 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 4:46 am to
When you’re done make sure you check out Tai-Pan.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Sex Toys



Maybe one of the most strange chapters in any book i've read. It made sense with the book but kind of went off the reservations

Reminded me of the "IT" orgy in how out of left field it was compared to what else was going on

It is a great book
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
4992 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:20 pm to
I did. Fascinating...
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9299 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:31 pm to
A while back and it took me months.


I need to do it again as that was >10 years ago
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 6:46 pm to
Yes long ago, great book.

I think the editor had James cut the book back, with 200-300 pages left he has many plots running and they all are rapped up very quick.


To me it seems he was going for a 1600 page book and was told to cut it back.

Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12358 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:03 am to
Thanks for the post, I just ordered Shogun from Audible. At 53 hours it seems like a good use of a credit.

Lonesome Dove was my last Audible credit and it was just great.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 6:28 am to
quote:

Shogun from Audible.


It’s great. I’d like to hear your thoughts on the narration when you are done. Some characters were better than others. Some took getting used to.

LD was the same. The first 5 hours or so I was annoyed that Gus yelled every sentence. Then I started liking it and calling my wife Woodrow in that voice. Haha!
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12358 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 7:54 am to
I got used to Lonesome Dove pretty quick and liked the narration for Gus, all of them really. Then I used a credit on Comanche Moon. What terrible narration. I returned it and used the credit on Shogun. It's the only time I've returned an Audible book because the narration was so bad.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:12 am to
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Comanche Moon. What terrible narration.


Good to know.

Let me know if you start saying “Shikata ga nai”.
I did. My wife was glad when that book was done too. Ha!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 12/22/18 at 10:30 pm to
I read it a couple of times back in the day. It was must read material in the 70s.

One of those books you never forget.
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