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re: Cop Refused to Work at Utah Gay Pride Parade Placed on Leave Under Investigation
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:45 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:45 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Do cops get hazard pay for working the gay pride parades? They are putting their asses on the line after all.
i see what you did there
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:53 pm to TerryDawg03
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Hell, I guess an individual throws his/her civil rights out the window when they decide to work for the State. Is that the attitude I'm getting from this board?
yes... This is very common. Police can't refuse to help someone because of race or religion. someone in the military can't refuse to fight because he is upset that Obama won. Someone who works for a judge cannot go to political functions or support political campaigns.
In short, the government can't discriminate. if you are an agent for the state this extends to you.
You have a problem with this?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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assignments are assignments … To allow personal opinion to enter into whether an officer will take a post is not something that can be tolerated in a police department,”
Pretty much the beginning and end of the conversation right here.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:03 pm to TerryDawg03
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is a very dangerous precedent to set. Don't question your orders, just follow them.
You're comparing slaughtering Jews to watching gay guy on floats.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:08 pm to weagle99
Saw black cops protecting the kkk on the Ole Miss campus a few years back.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:03 pm to BayouBlitz
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This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:08 pm to ctiger69
There aren't many folks less sympathetic to gay causes than I am on here. I think a private business most certainly should be allowed to choose not to do business with someone if they like.
But, it's a damned slippery slope if you start saying cops, who work for the state, get to pick and choose who they "protect and serve".
Anyone who can't see that is not working very hard at it.
In the final analysis, a cop working a gay pride parade is there for the same reason he's there at any parade. Crowd control, public safety, etc etc. That's his job. He can do it or go be a janitor at the Christian Coalition. His choice.
But, it's a damned slippery slope if you start saying cops, who work for the state, get to pick and choose who they "protect and serve".
Anyone who can't see that is not working very hard at it.
In the final analysis, a cop working a gay pride parade is there for the same reason he's there at any parade. Crowd control, public safety, etc etc. That's his job. He can do it or go be a janitor at the Christian Coalition. His choice.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:14 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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You would also be against said cop not working a KKK rally, correct?
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Yessir. Or a Christian parade, or a Muslim parade, etc.
You just wouldn't have posted the story then.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:18 pm to petar
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i see what you did there
Glad somebody did
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:18 pm to Godfather1
Point being?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
hey hey, none of this 
now.
now.Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The police are there to serve the public. That includes all people. The police in Skokie were there to protect the Nazi marchers which is the police's job. Just as a soldier follows the Chief command, this policeman needed to follow the chain of command.
and no the days of we reserve the right not to serve, blacks, Jews gays etc are 50 years ago.
and no the days of we reserve the right not to serve, blacks, Jews gays etc are 50 years ago.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:27 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:I'm fine with such practice of a private individual/business.
and no the days of we reserve the right not to serve, blacks, Jews gays etc are 50 years ago.
A cop has no such luxury. When you work for someone else, you are at the whim of what the job requires. His job requires he do police work. If he was Jewish and had to work a neo-Nazi demonstration, I'd say the same thing.
The reason it should be OK for a private actor to refuse is simple. People should have to the freedom to decide what their resources support and what they choose to associate with. Hmm. Freedom of association. That sounds familiar.
If he were a PI and didn't want to work for a gay guy. Fine. But, he's a cop. Suck it up.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:42 pm to ctiger69
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Not really. I support the cop. It gets tougher and tougher to do what is right because of judgmental pricks forcing their gay beliefs on everyone.
You support an employee of the state choosing who he will and will not serve and protect?
Yikes
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You support an employee of the state choosing who he will and will not serve and protect?
Yikes
Right? Absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You support an employee of the state choosing who he will and will not serve and protect?
To be fair, I'm sure he only supports the employee because he agrees with him.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Here are more details:
LINK
I side with the cop in this one. Could the SLC police not find someone else to ride in his place for that parade?
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The motor officer had been assigned to ride ahead of the Utah Pride parade Sunday, according to a statement released Monday. He asked to trade for a security or patrol assignment, according to the statement, and was placed on paid administrative leave.
"The officer simply felt that the level of participation required in the event could be perceived as endorsing or advocating in favor of the LGBTQ community, a position which made him uncomfortable given his personal and religious beliefs," the statement read.
LINK
I side with the cop in this one. Could the SLC police not find someone else to ride in his place for that parade?
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:00 pm to EST
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I side with the cop in this one.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
So my man (or woman) do police departments have proper channels to bring any concerns they may have? I assure you they do. Do you work? Does your company have channels to go thru? So I'll take that as you don't don't know.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:06 pm to Rickety Cricket
Why the rolled eyes? Why can't they respect the religious beliefs of their employees? Being employed shouldn't require someone to violate their religious beliefs and conscience.
Its not that difficult. Just get someone else to take the guys place in the parade. Too many people make too many things way too difficult.
Its not that difficult. Just get someone else to take the guys place in the parade. Too many people make too many things way too difficult.
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