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re: Cop Refused to Work at Utah Gay Pride Parade Placed on Leave Under Investigation
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:08 pm to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:08 pm to Vegas Bengal
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You're comparing a gay pride parade to a holocaust camp?!?
No, on a more fundamental, moral beliefs level.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The articles I read don't say on what exact grounds he's suing on. Just says he's been "defamed" by the police department lol. Hard to defame a person when nobody has any idea who they are.
If this holds up like it is, this cop certainly isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
I would have to peg his IQ in the 80's to 90's if he's making decisions like this.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:09 pm to TerryDawg03
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So, would you prefer that law enforcement employees blindly follow government instruction, regardless of religious beliefs?
Short answer: yes. I'm not sure how giving the police a choice over what segment of the population they protect could possibly be a good thing. Don't like it? Get another job.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:12 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I have no issue with this. He isn't a private actor.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:14 pm to Mickey Goldmill
No
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:19 pm to ctiger69
So if a cop doesn't like how you look in the walmart parking lot and refuses to help you as you get mugged, that's cool?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Don't know his reasons but on the surface, regardless of how you feel. Do your job.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Good. A cop shouldn't pick and choose assignments. They deal with rapists, murderers, and the gays.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:23 pm to darkhorse
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Don't know his reasons but on the surface, regardless of how you feel. Do your job.
Really respect you for this post. I know we don't always agree but I think most people can agree that in situations involving police and public safety, there's no room for discrimination.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:23 pm to ctiger69
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I'm tired of people trying to force their gay beliefs on others.
He gets a paycheck paid for with tax dollars and he wants to not perform a public service he's contractually obligated to do so. His personal opinion is irrelevant. When he refused, he was discriminating against citizens with tax dollars, that is not allowed.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:24 pm to weagle99
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You would also be against said cop not working a KKK rally, correct?
I like how you equate gays with a terrorist organization. You're really letting your bigotry shine.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:28 pm to Sentrius
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This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:30 pm to ctiger69
You weren't asking me but:
Yep, yep, and yep.
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Would you feel the same way if a black cop refuses to work a KKK party?
Or a Jewish cop refuses to work a nazi pride party?
How about an atheist cop who refuses to work a Christian fun raiser for the poor?
Yep, yep, and yep.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I just find the supposed Libertarian nature of this board interesting when it comes to an individual protesting working an event that contradicts his/her moral beliefs in favor of the majority. If it comes with the territory as part of working for the State, perhaps I can understand that argument. But good for the person who didn't blindly follow orders.
ETA: Hell, I guess an individual throws his/her civil rights out the window when they decide to work for the State. Is that the attitude I'm getting from this board?
ETA: Hell, I guess an individual throws his/her civil rights out the window when they decide to work for the State. Is that the attitude I'm getting from this board?
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:31 pm to ctiger69
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Would you feel the same way if a black cop refuses to work a KKK party?
Or a Jewish cop refuses to work a nazi pride party?
How about an atheist cop who refuses to work a Christian fun raiser for the poor?
You would be ok with all of them except for the gay situation. Right?
No, they would be violating their terms of employment as well like this cop and gay pride parade as well.
Discrimination with public dollars is not allowed no matter what stripes you wear.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:35 pm to TerryDawg03
You think a cop has a "civil right" not to protect gay people? Could you link to a court case backing up this position.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:38 pm to ctiger69
Of course. The KKK and the crazy Christians who protests soldiers funerals and the anti-abortion protesters all are citizens and when they file for the requisite permits, their parade and protests deserve police protection.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:42 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Yes, the gay mafia. When they leave a stallion's penis in your bed, you know you're in trouble.
A stallion's penis? Meh. Now a Unicorn's penis, that's scary shite
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The guy refused to take a post he was ordered to take and he was disciplined.
I don't have any problem with that.
But what is there to investigate?
I don't have any problem with that.
But what is there to investigate?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:44 pm to TerryDawg03
You are misunderstanding libertarianism. In this scenario, the cop is the government, not an individual whose rights are at issue. If he were acting in his private capacity, like refusing to bake a cake for a wedding, it's a different story.
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