re: Cop Refused to Work at Utah Gay Pride Parade Placed on Leave Under Investigation

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You think a cop has a "civil right" not to protect gay people? Could you link to a court case backing up this position.

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Yes, because court cases solve everything.

This man's religious rights are being infringed upon because the state wants to make him work an event which he morally does not agree with. This board is getting about as "Libertarian" as the DNC. Say "Hi" to Chris Matthews for me.

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He cannot discriminate when he is being paid for with public dollars. We can't allow public employees to pick what events to work and what not to. That's discrimination with public dollars.

In short, this cop is a goddamn moron. If you don't want to work an event like this, turn in your gun and badge.

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Nailed it.

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You are misunderstanding libertarianism. In this scenario, the cop is the government, not an individual whose rights are at issue. If he were acting in his private capacity, like refusing to bake a cake for a wedding, it's a different story.

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The government is the government, not the government employee. He's acting in his private capacity as a government employee. If you're so against a government employee questioning authority, how do you fell about Snowden? Traitor, or patriot? He questioned authority and defied it.

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Should've thought about that before he became an employee of the state.

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So, again, I go back to Goodwin's Law (Thank you, Sentrius). Given that all German military personnel were following orders of the State, should there have been NO war criminals out of Germany after WWII?

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So, again, I go back to Goodwin's Law (Thank you, Sentrius). Given that all German military personnel were following orders of the State, should there have been NO war criminals out of Germany after WWII?

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So you contend that the police officer was given an unlawful order?

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Given that all German military personnel were following orders of the State, should there have been NO war criminals out of Germany after WWII?

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He's not being asked to do anything immoral. He's not asked to support a cause. He's simply being asked to do his job, which is to provide police support to a public event. And maybe shoot a dog.

He has no moral or religious grounds to stand on.

He cannot choose to not answer a distress call at a strip club. He can't choose to not work a robbery at a liquor store. And he can't choose to not work a gay pride parade.

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So, again, I go back to Goodwin's Law (Thank you, Sentrius). Given that all German military personnel were following orders of the State, should there have been NO war criminals out of Germany after WWII?

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Wow

I do, too. Ain't it great?!?

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Dude just compared acceptance of homosexuals to Nazi Germany and he's going to wonder why Republicans can't win a fricking national election to save their dicks.

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It's why we can't have nice things.

I don't follow your logic. This is a guy who decided not to hold up to his end of the bargain. You know, that oath he took to protect and serve, the oath he voluntarily took. There is no asterisks here. This isn't Nazi Germany. You really want your police force to police their citizens based on their own morals? Why even have laws then? Why even have an oath if you can just cherry pick what you want to do and opt out of that you don't?

The system doesn't work that way. It may be far from perfect, but it's the best we have right now and it needs consistency to be effective. It needs people to fall in line and do their job regardless of their political and religious beliefs. If that doesn't work for you, then don't work for the state.