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re: Are severly anti-gay people more likely to be gay?

Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by JoeMoTiger
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:15 pm to
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It's been my observation those who are the loudest about how perverted being a homosexual is are generally the ones the deepest in the closet with their own sexuality. It's one of those weird things about the whole gay/anti gay movements. Though you also see that with the deeply religious or conservative and their sexual tastes.


It's been my observation that people under 40 are more likely to accept LGBT lifestyles. This is probably due to the way Hollywood and most other media outlets have presented and advocated for the LBGT community. It really has changed a lot since I grew up in the 60-70's. Where society goes from here no one knows but you can rest assured that polygamist, NAMBLA, pedophiles, and the like are going to want their say too, sounds crazy but it's coming.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:34 pm to
I think homophobia is a poor term to use here. Most people who speak out against homosexuality aren't afraid of homosexuals or of homosexuality, rather they are afraid of a world where their beliefs and ideas about morality are as casually and easily dismissed as they dismiss the morality, beliefs and customs of the ancient Aztecs. They fear their beliefs becoming a remnant, a page in a history book read by students centuries from now but in no way considered even a remotely acceptable or viable way of thinking.

When you base your entire existence around a given set of supposedly objective, universal truths and you see a future where those truths are dismissed as easily as the belief that Thor is behind thunderstorms, that can be a very scary thing. Having your worldview marginalized in such a significant way is both humiliating and horrifying.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:35 pm to
Are anti-Christian bigots like you more likely to be Christians fool ?

No one is GAY anyway, they are homosexual perverts. No one is against a homosexual pervert being a pervert, let them bust hell wide open.

I don't want our government condoning perverted marriage, a business they have no right to be in to start with, nor do I want the fools in government teaching elementary kids through High School that being a pervert is natural and normal, because it isn't.

Let them be weirdo freaks, and let them bust hell wide open.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:12 am
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:40 pm to
Because of your life of crime, drinking and drugs, I've no doubt that you'll die before me. But if by chance I get the Ebola and go first, I'm going to so enjoy myself with a big old bag of popcorn with a front grow seat watching you go to Hell Ina hand basket.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:40 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy


I'm going to pray for you tonight. You need it extremely badly.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:43 pm to
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Are anti-Christian bigots like you more likely to be Christians fool ?


In some ways, yes.

Those who most adamantly speak out against and demean a given thing are many times secretly battling with that very thing in their own mind. I'm certain some of the most hateful anti-Christian people out there secretly have a part of them that either believes or wants to believe and they are desperately trying to suppress it.

It is a very common defense mechanism used by almost everyone in one way or another.
Posted by JoeMoTiger
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:48 pm to
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I think homophobia is a poor term to use here. Most people who speak out against homosexuality aren't afraid of homosexuals or of homosexuality, rather they are afraid of a world where their beliefs and ideas about morality are as casually and easily dismissed as they dismiss the morality, beliefs and customs of the ancient Aztecs. They fear their beliefs becoming a remnant, a page in a history book read by students centuries from now but in no way considered even a remotely acceptable or viable way of thinking. When you base your entire existence around a given set of supposedly objective, universal truths and you see a future where those truths are dismissed as easily as the belief that Thor is behind thunderstorms, that can be a very scary thing. Having your worldview marginalized in such a significant way is both humiliating and horrifying.


I can say for people in my generation, upper 40's to early 60's a lot of them don't understand the relationships, they see two women together and one is playing the male (butch) and the other is the women, same thing with gay males, seems one plays the female and the other the male, now I know this is not 100% of the time but it is quite common. I hear the same comments when there is a discussion about gay/lesbian couples when one is playing the male and the other the female, "why don't she just get a man? you know they're gonna strap up and do each other". Or " I don't understand these gay men, they're going to have anal sex when they could just have a woman and put it where it was meant to go".
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:03 pm
Posted by FT
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:48 pm to
This guy gets it.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Gay men are men that for the most part are completely defined by what their dicks want and the "right" to be able to have as much sex with others because it is the "freedom of not being married to a woman and allowing those antiquated religious teachings stifle us and corral that sexual freedom."


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That's dehumanizing a group of people, to say that "most" are like that. It's akin to saying most blacks are violent criminals. LAT had some nuanced views and was by no means a "basher," but let's not act like he didn't say some boneheaded things on the subject.


Actually, the only detail I would disagree with LAT on is to strike the word "gay" and just say "men." Without social constraints and expectations, a lot of men are going to devolve down to base animal instincts. Evolution tells us that men are more sexual animals than women.

LAT may have been personally repelled by the actions of some homosexuals and consequently personalized it, but his argument is not completely without merit.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:21 am to
I'm anti-gay rights in any shape or form, and I can assure you I have no homo tendencies, nor am I homophobic. I think butt-pounders/sword swallowers/muff diving dikes should be left alone to do as they please....in private.

But I sure as hell don't think society should be promoting an obvious psychological disorder that's destructive and unhealthy as praiseworthy, normal or acceptable.



Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:39 am to
All sin before God is a crime, the difference between me and you is that I admit I am a sinner, worthy of death, who has accepted the free gift of life ever after, by TURNING FROM MY SINS, ( REPENTING ) and receiving the free gift of salvation ever after by the remission of sins in Christ Jesus.

I am not shaking my fist in God's face telling Him, it's ok to be a drunkard, a dope head, or an adulterous man as I was. But rather I turned from my evil ways, and admitted to God I was evil and hopeless without Him.

So, a former drunkard who drank 3 pints of liquor, who smoked dope, who smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day, hasn't drank a single beer in 27 years or smoked a cigarette, nor ever cheated on his wife.

I think my testimony of God's salvation is a witness to all who know me.

I also think men and women who sleep together are perverts if they aren't married.

You have to turn from WHATEVER SIN YOU ARE IN.

I didn't say I hated you, I only hate the fact that you "preach " that homosexuality is pure and normal, your being a homosexual is a blight on you, and I am saddened by that, but when you shake your fist at God and say my sin is no sin, then you get my anger and righteous wrath, which is of, God.

God hates the sin not the sinner, but God also hates and abhors the person that mocks Him, and refuses to acknowledge His Godhead.

Why do you think John the Baptist was beheaded? Because he called out the sin of the rulers of his day. All of the prophets were hated by their own peoples, because they spoke truth.

The difference beteeen King Saul and King Davids when they were rebuffed by the prophet is very telling. King Saul sat his face against God and ignored the prophet, King David accepted instruction, repented, fasted and wore sackcloth, and cried unto the Lord that he was an unworthy sinner.

That is the stark contrast of a humble man who repents and allows God to change him, vs a stubborn, anti God man who refuses to admit he is a sinner before God, and refuses instruction of how to leave the sinful ways he was born into.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:59 am to
Well I would thank you for praying for me, but I doubt God will hear you. If you truly go around telling sinners it's ok to be a homosexual then you have no part of God's Holy Spirit or you would know it's a sin and a death sentence to all who refuse to repent. Just as you shouldn't tell people stealing is ok and normal, just as you shouldn't tell adulterers it's ok to cheat on your wives etc etc.


God said ( Jesus in revelations ) that He will spew out all that are lukewarm, and in another Scripture J.C. states that you can't serve two masters.

When Moses came off the Holy Mountain and realized that Aaron had allowed some of the Israelites to talk him into building a golden calf, he drew a line and said those that are with God stand over here, and those that are not with our God stand over there, and all that opppsed God were slain.

You can't be of two minds my friend. You are hearing the call of the evil one WHO GOD SAYS CAN APPEAR AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.

God never opposes Himself nor ever contradicts Himself. He says homosexuality is an abomination, and it is, because it's contrary to what God created, the man for the woman, who would leave his mother and cling unto his wife, and usher in the building block of the world, a family.

It is really elementary. God has a way of doing everything, a natural way, a Holy Way. Satan wanted to be God, and that was impossible, because his wanting to be God is a sin against nature, because God is Holy and pure in all his ways, and any desire to set ones face against the Creator is unholy and sinful.

God doesn't change.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 2:06 am
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:17 am to
Very doubtful. You don't set your face against something with such vitriol and anger and secretly disire to be such. In an anti Christians case, his sin can finally bring him to the end of himself, where he is hopeless and in utter agony, and only then will he humble himself before God and cast his cares upon God.

Any man with the Holy Spirit living in him, knows that homosexuality as well as adultery is wrong.

So your psycho analysis on the subject really is only an abject question of Does a man hearken unto the Holy Spirit or unto Satan and his minions.

Going out to get a picture of the Blood Moon in a few minutes to piss ole dumb V. B. off.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56009 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:42 am to
3 severely anti gay posts by SEC crazy, sounds like he is gay.

In all seriousness read through this thread this morning it was enjoyable until sec crazy came around. Thankfully no-one is debating him.

I'm also impressed that LAT was openly homosexual but decided to live a celibate life style, if what posters have said about him are true. That takes a lot of courage to live like that. Props to the man, RIP.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:44 am to
Well he had a lover. He wasn't celibate until later in his life and relationship, like many str8 people.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:45 am to
He I went outside a few hours ago and saw the blood Moon! When do we all die?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56009 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:53 am to
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Well he had a lover. He wasn't celibate until later in his life and relationship, like many str8 people.


I realize that, it was still cool to read that.

What ever the reason was it's still cool he decided to do that. It sounds like it wasn't just medical because he was anti gay marriage. How many openly gay men or women are anti gay marriage, I've only meet a couple and that is because they work with a catholic apostolate who helps those who have homosexual tendencies.

Actually if you look up a movie called the desire of the everlasting hills it tells stories of Gays who went from being very tied up in the gay life style to living celibate.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56009 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:54 am to
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He I went outside a few hours ago and saw the blood Moon! When do we all die?


He may have been raptured already you and I have to live out the apocalypse on earth.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:21 am to
Did anyone read my post about Ted haggard?
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:37 am to
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and let them bust hell wide open.


You keep saying this. Does it make you feel good? What does it mean anyway?
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