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re: Official AR-15 thread

Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by MisterSenator
Member since Aug 2013
1285 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
Looking into building over the Christmas holiday... Where do I start?
Where should I not cut costs?
When should I buy?
Black Friday?
What is essential? What is not?

Thanks
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10360 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:20 pm to
Start by buying my rail..
Posted by MisterSenator
Member since Aug 2013
1285 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

MisterSenator


how much are you looking to spend? are you set on building from scratch? many good deals can be had on complete rifles these days
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18136 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Where should I not cut costs?


I would suggest buying the best barrel you can afford. I would also invest in a good trigger. At least get an ALG combat trigger. It's night and day better than a LPK trigger and cost about $45 from brownells. You can also buy the LPK from brownells without the trigger group and pistol grip for about $25. Since you will probably put an aftermarket pistol grip on your gun don't pay for what your not going to use.

LINK
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I would suggest buying the best barrel you can afford


not necessarily true, depending on his use
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22380 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:46 pm to
Has anyone done a SBR on their current AR's and instead of buying a new upper, just sawing the barrel of on your existing upper? (by a gunsmith of course) Thinking about doing this as a cheaper way to SBR my rifle.
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:54 pm to
did this to my 16" LMT piston barrel. sent it to ADCO had it chopped to 12", threaded and dimpled







Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

I would suggest buying the best barrel you can afford. I would also invest in a good trigger. At least get an ALG combat trigger. It's night and day better than a LPK trigger and cost about $45 from brownells. You can also buy the LPK from brownells without the trigger group and pistol grip for about $25. Since you will probably put an aftermarket pistol grip on your gun don't pay for what your not going to use.


White oak armament sells a LPK that includes the ALG ACT for a solid price, if you don't mind the shitty A2 grip. LINK
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Looking into building over the Christmas holiday... Where do I start?


If moderate use, just buy a s&w sport for 519 and call it a day. Good rifle.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:38 pm to
Not knocking White Oak, but that's not that awesome of a price. You can get LPKs for $25ish without the FCG and ACT triggers for $65ish. If anything it's an average to slightly higher than average price.
Posted by MisterSenator
Member since Aug 2013
1285 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

If moderate use, just buy a s&w sport for 519 and call it a day. Good rifle.


Not going to respond to all of the responses, although each is appreciated...

Use will be plinking and home defense (also own shotguns, but pistol lacks capacity).

I've seriously considered the M&P 15. What upgrades should I anticipate making, and what bells and whistles is it making relative to firearms in the range just above this (say $700-850 range?)
Is this my best, cheap option?
Are there better builds in the $500-$750 price range?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:24 am to
quote:

What upgrades should I anticipate making, and what bells and whistles is it making relative to firearms in the range just above this (say $700-850 range?)


It won't have:
Dust Cover (Not really needed IMO)
Forward Assist (I have never used mine and generally not needed)
Chrome Lined Barrel (you probably won't shoot it enough or rapid enough to matter)
It is 1:9 or 1:8 twist IIRC (perfectly great for lighter bullets "55gr")

You will probably upgrade:
Handguard (free float for accuracy)
Optics (red dot or scope)
Trigger (polished or new)
Buttstock and Grip (Preference on looks)
Misc "HD" items (flashlight, laser, grip...)

I built my PSA rifle for around 600 but I had to wait on sales. It is completely Mil Spec. Look at Palmetto State Armory for uppers and lowers if you want to "build". I would get the premium line over the PTAC. Other than that, get what you want.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 7:28 am
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:51 am to
last week i built my dad one using this upper from BCM. its a screaming deal and comes with the bolt carrier group (BCG)

bravocompanyusa

it would probably put you right over your price point depending on how chap you can build your lower for, but if you go cheap on the lower now it will be easier to upgrade (spend an extra $80-100 on a new stock down the road, change the grip etc.) vs trying to upgrade your upper and make changes to it.

heres what it looks like complete



Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9933 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:55 am to
quote:

did this to my 16" LMT piston barrel. sent it to ADCO had it chopped to 12", threaded and dimpled


If you don't mind, I am curious how much you have invested in this build altogether with can and stamps and all? I am thinking about building my first AR and like the idea of a sbr with a can. Yours looks great.
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:39 am to
the following information may unsuitable for some OB'ers

VIEWER'S DISCRETION IS ADVISED

started life as a complete 16" LMT MRP CQB piston (god i hate acronyms)

- $1,900---Rifle
- $250-----Barrel chop
- $125-----AAC 51T Muzzle Brake
- $230-----Geissle SSA-E
- $200-----Troy Flip up BUIS
- $700-----Aimpoint T-1 on Larue
- $350-----Surefire M952V LED/IR (used)
- $200-----FORM 1 SBR TAX STAMP
- $200-----FORM 4 SILENCER TAX STAMP
- $1050----AAC M4-2000

-$5205

i didn't include control accessories because i am constantly changing them (stock, grip, rail panels, sling etc.)



*****Mrs. McDiddles, if you are reading this, it was all paid for before we were married

This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by Papercutninja
Member since Feb 2010
1543 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:50 am to
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This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:52 am to
i have a trust, why do you assume that?
Posted by Papercutninja
Member since Feb 2010
1543 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:55 am to
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This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:56 am to
good point, +$200

but i will leave it off as it is not necessary to get into NFA
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 9:59 am
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