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re: Missing Kayaker in the gulf

Posted on 9/12/12 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117682 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 7:32 pm to
AuburnCPA, I think you have the coin for one of these.

I picked one up off ebay for 5K. They are priceless for guys like Eric though.

Pick one:
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Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

I plan on doing it at some point.

I think about it because of the pure fishing thing, but I would never ever go anywhere near open water in one.
God's speed to him.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:11 pm to
There are alternatives to epirbs now. I think they are called spot or something. Cost is around 300 dollars, even cheaper depending on which kind you get there are a couple of differnet levels/types.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38475 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:50 pm to
10 years working offshore taught me to respect the open water. Absolutely no way I would take a kayak out past a bay. I have seen too many squals, insane tides, and water spouts pop up out of nowhere and get 30 foot offshore vessels in trouble. You are asking to die if you take a kayak offshore. Once you are in the water it is 100% over for you and it will happen in a hurry. I've seen tides so strong we were worried it would topple our jack up over and on a crystal clear day. A kayak wouldn't stand a chance in that.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 9:52 pm
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:53 pm to
I don't understand it either
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38475 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:00 pm to
And that foolish idea that you are safe because you can see land? You couldn't be more wrong. Worst offshore storm I have ever experienced was maybe 2 miles off Johnson Bayou. Out of nowhere a squal popped up and i counted 8 water spouts at one time. I got caught in the Derrick and had to tie myself down to because the wind was blowing to hard for me to climb down. When the storm passed we could see a +500 foot ship that had been blown aground by the thunderstorm.

You people taking kayaks offshore have no respect for the open sea and you will pay with your lives to learn about it.
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18821 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:08 pm to
Nothing wrong going out a couple hundred yards off the beach to troll in a kayak.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:26 pm to
Yeah, I used to have this awesome-sounding idea to try to paddle with some friends to horn island, about 5 or 6 miles south of the MS bay. It sounded so cool at the time but thankfully we didn't have the equipment/nobody had enough money to do it. I don't think we would have gone through with it either way..the ocean scares the absolute shite out of me. I get freaked enough out paddling around in the bay and bayous. How the hell do you know something isn't going to attack your boat or some storm isn't going to roll through?
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3837 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:32 pm to
Sad situation. Hope they find him.

All outdoorsman need to look in to the SPOT tracker or some other tracking/alert system.

Put it on your Christmas list this year. $99 to purchase and annual service of $99 for basic alert or $150 year if you want web based tracking.

I have mine on anytime I'm in my yak, friends boat or atv. Hell, it's stays in the glove box of my SUV so it's always there.

I posted the story a while back about getting washed out of the Mississippi river into a spillway after capsizing durIng a kayak race. My wife was watching real time on her iPad and saw me leave the river. (She had know idea what was going on) No one would have looked for me out of the river and down in "Paw Paws chute" if things had went from bad to tragic without a tracker. While I was I the water, I thought about the tracker and knew they would realize where to start looking for me if I had to let go of boat and swim as I was nearing a debris pile. Luckily it all worked out. My blackberry was ruined inside my kayak hatch and inside a dry bag. SPOT tracker , strapped on outside of kayak and submerged for 5-10 minutes before I could flip kayak worked fine. Point Being; don't rely on just a cell phone!
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:58 pm to
I will never understand how people don't have the respect for the gulf they should. All it takes is the slightest effort to see that it ain't safe so you have to be prepared. Or just hope you get lucky every time.

You won't.

So sad because that guy is probably dead at this point and that was unnecessary.

Horrible.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:35 am to
I am not writing him off until they find the kayak without him. Big ocean out there. Hope his is found tomorrow drifting around or makes his way to an oil rig if he hasn't already.
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3353 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 6:41 am to
I work offshore, Fish offshore 2-3 of my 7 days off.
Pretty ignorant statement to make that if you go out in a kayak you are gonna die.

Ive been in the gulf in my yak, but have 2-3 forms of communications, people know where im at, wear a life jacket, and am aware of my surroundings.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30477 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 7:04 am to
Considering the size and scope of danger in the open seas.....


Aint that much safety difference between an idiot in a 20 foot bay boat and an experienced kayaker in a kayak.

When the sea is angry......all bets are off...

With that being said....pick your days to go....

I don't want to fish 8 foot seas in any boat..


And have any of y'all actually seen a water spout hit a boat?



Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
2911 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 7:21 am to
quote:

that's some dumb shite to be in the Gulf in a yak


This

I'm sorry but it's the truth. I've spent a lot of time in the gulf too, and that is one unforgiving bitch. She doesn't care whether you live or die.

I hope the dude didn't have any dependents or at least had a lot of life insurance.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 7:22 am
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 7:24 am to
quote:

And have any of y'all actually seen a water spout hit a boat?

Not a boat but been on a rig one hit & it ain't purdy
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34257 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:05 am to
quote:

And have any of y'all actually seen a water spout hit a boat?


I have definitely been in a boat that had to use 300 HP to avoid one. Do you really think you can avoid/outrun a waterspout with a paddle?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34257 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:07 am to
I would consider carrying one in the boat and jumping into it on a calm day at a grass line or something, but I'd stay very close to the mother ship.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:14 am to
A kayak is no different than any other vessel in regards to preparation before heading out. Many factors should be taken into account like conditions, equipment, and experience level. Ignoring any of these factors is a recipe for disaster in any vessel, regardless of size. The more exposed you are the more important these factors become. You should be prepared for the worst and yet plan accordingly to see that the chances of that happening are as small as you can make them.

I fish all of Mobile bay and "near shore" out of Orange Beach to Fort Morgan and I have never had any issues.


ETA - I really hope they find this guy. Unless something catastrophic happened and if he had the proper equipment there's a very good chance that he is still alive.

This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 8:20 am
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18821 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:41 am to
at most I would go out to a certain buoy in Orange Beach. It might be a mile at most. I would only do this with proper safety measures on a calm day.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:48 am to
quote:

I was gonna take my buddies offshore in their kayaks this summer but never got around to it. I was just gonna strap the yaks to my t-top and carry them out. I wanted to see one hook up with something and pull them all around



Only way I'd go offshore in a kayak.
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